Shit man

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-47684249/the-great-escape-remembered-75-years-on

So i just looked at my father side passage to sons family book. Family established from 1100 ad. Apparently there were crusaders within my family. Deus Vult <:Deus_Think:505447701589000192>

Makes me somehow proud. also there were some family members hanged dont know for what crimes exatcly 🤔 <:oof:494878589406150657> any of you guys interested in your family roots

not all crusaders were there by choice

Werent common folks i think many people were highly religious. Family has never left the netherlands. Well some have gone to australia but thats besides the point.

@TwinVickers where do you hail from fellow person.

it doesn't exist

i meant that even if you were very religious like most commoners were, they probably would have preferred to be home rather than walking across the continent to die by the sword.

I'm finnish

Crusaders weren't particularly known for being extremely pious or religious, especially the common folk. They just wanted out of the serfdom system, and the possibility of finding fortune in foreign lands, with the added bonus of all committed sins being removed and the automatic entry into heaven was extremely tempting for the peasantry

Yea

Reminder that Salahdin Ayubi was fucking lit

he is the best muslim

dead <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

Also one of the most benevolent rulers in muslim history. Respected all his subjects, no matter religion. <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

You just like him because he was a kurd <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

Too bad Islam is backwards and devolves as it moves forward

@Mal I sure do have a bias. But prove me wrong. <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>

@Fitzydog We have to fast forward the renassaince in the muslim world. That is not something that can be done in the West. But its something htat must happen at the homes in the muslim world.

The Arab spring was so close to becoming that renaissance

Very close. But not quite there.

But, with the access to internet, and the growing liberal population, and the ongoing anger at the islamist rulership in the many nations, we might see an uprising again. Maybe a violent one again, or a subtle change like in Tunisia.

Most of you peeps here dont really speak Arabic nor kurdish, so you cant keep an eye on many of the debates between theologicians etc etc.

Things are changing. Just not fast enough.

Become the Kurdish savior that builds a democracy for refugees to return to

I have already planned on finishing my education here. Go back. Get a good as clinic. Then start doing politics.

Only way to fix the shit is people like me. Sons of daughters of the refugees from many years ago. We are westernized (usually), and people respect us for being educated.

Open a gun store

Iraq, Syria, Iran. All are nations able to change. Persians are doing it themselves, Syrians are really liberal, Iraqis it depends.

Could do that too.

They are legal as far as I know

I thought about opening a clinic. You can earn around 2K USD a day if you're good.

There's a braindrain. Not enough educated people.

Entrepreneurs are more important for a burgeoning economy, tbh.

If you build it, the brains will come.

Agreed. State is really investing in it too. If you have everything planned, they give you some oil money to finish the project.

You know cardboard? That is unironically a HUGE thing you can earn a lot of money on over there. Someone just needs to make *one* factory. And then people in Iraqi kurdistan stop needing to buy from Iran and Turkey

Really?? Dude, if youve got an idea, there are business planners that will help you felsh it out for you and write a proposal to present

You think? Like yeah. Carboard is one of those things. They buy it off the turks and persians, needing to pay huge tarrifs too.

Oh yeah? Perfect niche