Not arguing that religious societies can't be moral, just that secular societies haven't been proven not to be

I could spin it as one of my Xbox friends inviting me. She was fine with me meeting up with them last september for BDC R4.

mass surveillance, a lobbyist government, wage stagnation, the exploitation of low wage migrants everywhere, massive inequalities and declining political freedoms aren't exactly a sign of moral exaltation @Sock

secular societies are better at hiding crimes

If I just up and left my Uni room, she'd start asking questions. I either want a story to tell before I go, or have the same one ready for when she questions me after I've left.

the deep web is filled with... respectable citizens from secular societies

Wtf how is that even? She does know that a young male need to date right. Is she okay with you dating?

And she'd also question why I tunred off location services for the phone tracker app, or deleted it.

@Deleted User I've never dated before, so I can't say for sure.

abortion... is completely moral aswell I guess, same with the advocacy for euthanasia, forced vaccines and lgbtq+ rights... for children

@TheTechnoVampire your mom doesn’t have a right to know

Thats really bad mom for you man

great signs of a... moral cohesion within secular societies @Sock

Did you have to do any chores. Lack of chorse means lack of disciprine

>disciprine

Tiger mom confirmed

Chores do not improve discipline, guidance does

Just load/unload dishwasher and empty bins. That's it.

Fr tho @TheTechnoVampire you don’t owe your mom anything for an explanation

Thats not enough

Standards of living, life expectancies, and personal freedoms for all people in first world countries today are better than any time in human history. You can always point to weak spots in any system, but across so many factors we're doing pretty damn good

nah we're pretty bad

You need to clean the showers vacuum clean

Do you have a job

Just a small one

Like post or market

pretty much endstage roman republic levels of immorality

@Deleted User why’s the job matter?

You need to develop as a man

Ah

Romans were religious

He still doesn’t owe his mom anything though

ye up until the end of the republic, then it was all about distraction

Are you saying that these problems aren't unique to secularism

I dont understand the mom is okay with him playing vidyagames all day.. but going out to socialise is bad <:what:382980756139409409>

@Antiboom She's a strict, controlling woman. To help me with assignment work, she put blockers on phone and laptop to get me to go to sleep. She only uses them for turning my devices off at night, not for web fliters or anything like that.

secularism is a sign of cultural decline

@TheTechnoVampire does she pay for your college?

That would explain everything

Also are you asian

No. I get grants so I can pay.