You should be focused on work, school and socializing

if nothing ever matters, then ... well?

Nihilism get rekt

But @TheTechnoVampire you live in the dorms you dont even live with your mom

The overprotetive mom is bad for your growth

@Conqueror Steve You can rely on a god for supreme authority on moral questions, but you can't verify that God is telling the truth about what's moral

I like to have my phone on hand with me at all times. I never leave it, even when nipping to Asda 10-15 minutes away.

without religion there is barely any moral cohesion within a larger society, only within tribes or friendship groups

I disagree

well yeah because you aren't aware of studies done on that topic

First world societies are more secular than third world societies

I brought up Tommy Robinson to my mum once, and she made her point clear to me that she does not like him.

So what

Plus we don't have a large sample size of entirely secular societies

first world countries aren't exactly the monument of moral cohesion

You are an adult

You arent dependent on your mom

They're way better than the messed up stuff that's been don't throughout history while religion dominated

@Conqueror Steve What should I say to her? Just that a friend has invited me to Manchester for a BBQ tonight?

Not arguing that religious societies can't be moral, just that secular societies haven't been proven not to be

I could spin it as one of my Xbox friends inviting me. She was fine with me meeting up with them last september for BDC R4.

mass surveillance, a lobbyist government, wage stagnation, the exploitation of low wage migrants everywhere, massive inequalities and declining political freedoms aren't exactly a sign of moral exaltation @Sock

secular societies are better at hiding crimes

If I just up and left my Uni room, she'd start asking questions. I either want a story to tell before I go, or have the same one ready for when she questions me after I've left.

the deep web is filled with... respectable citizens from secular societies

Wtf how is that even? She does know that a young male need to date right. Is she okay with you dating?

And she'd also question why I tunred off location services for the phone tracker app, or deleted it.

@Deleted User I've never dated before, so I can't say for sure.

abortion... is completely moral aswell I guess, same with the advocacy for euthanasia, forced vaccines and lgbtq+ rights... for children

@TheTechnoVampire your mom doesn’t have a right to know

Thats really bad mom for you man

great signs of a... moral cohesion within secular societies @Sock

Did you have to do any chores. Lack of chorse means lack of disciprine

>disciprine

Tiger mom confirmed

Chores do not improve discipline, guidance does

Just load/unload dishwasher and empty bins. That's it.

Fr tho @TheTechnoVampire you don’t owe your mom anything for an explanation

Thats not enough

Standards of living, life expectancies, and personal freedoms for all people in first world countries today are better than any time in human history. You can always point to weak spots in any system, but across so many factors we're doing pretty damn good

nah we're pretty bad