Message from @EnderOctanus

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2019-05-02 22:17:26 UTC  

@OpenCube I am right wing on some issues :V
I'm not "all lefties are x all righties are y". But I guess I'd just appreciate it if there was a sort of brotherhood between all European ethnicities. We gotta stick together somehow, otherwise we will forever dance to the tune of some foreign world power (at least the US has much shared culture and history with us, but it's still annoying to play 2nd fiddle after the amerimutts).
We just have to keep the ~~Germans~~ bureaucrats from gobbling every bit of power up, and make it in such a way that it will be ruled for the wellbeing of OUR people, not for money or economic interests.

2019-05-02 22:18:29 UTC  

The German economic model is a pyramid scheme, it's a scam

2019-05-02 22:19:44 UTC  

The Germans may make trains run on time, but they know dick about what makes a society happy.

2019-05-02 22:25:19 UTC  

I'd agree with all that there are more important things than GDP, i'd measure the success of a society on the quality of life of the majority of individuals. Furthermore quality of life is not simply material wealth, its becoming clear that people have equally important psychological needs such as a sense of purpose in order to be happy.

2019-05-02 22:25:48 UTC  

i doubt people today are much happier than 100 years ago

2019-05-02 22:37:21 UTC  

From my (American) perspective there's no basic desire to lord it over y'all or anything. It's the trying to lecture us on how we should run the world when we're doing all the heavy lifting that pisses us off. I mean we got most of the oceans, most of the money, and damn near all the guns doing things our way. So when some dipshit (and I include our local dipshits in thee DNC) says we should do things *more like Europe* we kinda wish we would have let the Soviets have you.....

2019-05-02 22:40:10 UTC  

oh yeah my bad i got caught up in the making society happy part, i didn't especially agree with having to be a major player on the world stage i am happy to be more isolationist

2019-05-02 22:42:22 UTC  

Yeah the whole American Hegemony is kind of a comedy of errors. There's a great book on it *The Accidental Superpower* by Peter Zeihan.

2019-05-02 22:44:10 UTC  

At heart I am pretty isolationist. It's just that, looking at a global system and how much of the world depends on it. And that it's a system we made. You still want to pull out but you realize that doing so is not a simple task. Nature abhors a vacuum.

2019-05-02 22:44:26 UTC  

We fuck it up less than you lot would.

2019-05-02 22:46:05 UTC  

There is frankly no other nation in history that has had to operate forces of this magnitude and scale before, that also haven't destroyed themselves fantastically in doing so, other than America.

2019-05-02 22:46:07 UTC  

Regardless we likely are going to pull out. Without the Cold War there's no national interest for us to maintain the system. *how* we pull out matters I'm thinking about the mess after the colonial era here. Don't want to do that again.....

2019-05-02 22:46:43 UTC  

Oh you guys don't matter lol

2019-05-02 22:47:02 UTC  

Your shipping lanes ensure loyalty

2019-05-02 22:47:51 UTC  

What are you gonna do, raise taxes and rebuild your navy?

2019-05-02 22:48:04 UTC  

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2019-05-02 22:48:08 UTC  

Doubtful, good for you if you do though.

2019-05-02 22:49:33 UTC  

@EnderOctanus That's not the problem. The shipping lanes don't really matter to us. The dirty little secret is the Us doesn't profit from them. Imports are only 12% of our GDP and 2/3rds of our imports are N. American. In a lot of other places imports are how they eat.

2019-05-02 22:50:30 UTC  

Who ever implied we profit?

2019-05-02 22:51:12 UTC  

We pay an enormous price to maintain the hegemony, a price that only we will stomach paying.

2019-05-02 22:52:04 UTC  

Are you gonna raise taxes or not?

2019-05-02 22:53:07 UTC  

Because with military expansion comes tension with the US, and you better be fucking sure that you can duke it out before you get complacent in said expansion.

2019-05-02 22:53:13 UTC  

Huh? Who? I'm American M8. Just musing about the instability in that system M8.

2019-05-02 22:53:30 UTC  

Thought you were British

2019-05-02 22:54:17 UTC  

It is stable because nobody else us willing to spend what we do, OR, they admit that America > China.

2019-05-02 22:54:34 UTC  

My point was that if we don't profit over the system we have little motive to maintain it. That doesn't really hurt us but it could make the world a very messy place.

2019-05-02 22:55:01 UTC  

We profit politically.

2019-05-02 22:57:17 UTC  

Wat is that worth? Military allies who don't have militaries? Trading partners that don't have much to sell us? I'm not saying it's inevitable I'm just saying it is plausible.

2019-05-02 23:05:20 UTC  

Chinese collusion with the Democrats in 2020

2019-05-02 23:05:33 UTC  

Sway over policy

2019-05-02 23:06:34 UTC  

Apparently Thommy has been getting drinks poured on him and he stood his ground, like what went down?

2019-05-02 23:09:19 UTC  

Someone dumped a Sundae on him and he tuned him up a bit. Vee just did a video on it I was listening to it on the way home from work.

2019-05-03 00:15:52 UTC  

apparently the guy who threw milkshake on tommy assaulted 2 women, idk, that's what I seen on a video Lucy brown posted on twitter.

2019-05-03 00:20:24 UTC  

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2019-05-03 00:35:28 UTC  

Hey now I have a great idea lets have the world's most notorious IP thieves build out information infrastructure!

2019-05-03 00:46:24 UTC  

So