I still get racial taunts tho. I come from one of those white minority areas, imagine how woke I was on this topic before it even was a topic :3c

@OpenCube at least you had the balls to try

its not over yet <:pepehands:378719408367075333>

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also if they betray that fucking vote you can bet i'm never going to take the result of any election seriously again

if its not democratic there is no legitimacy

its that simple

I want the Eurocrats to crash and burn, the European Union needs to be rebuilt with power closer to the people, like each member state having complete freedom to do what the fuck ever, and we all just have a constitution in common.

@OpenCube well yeah, and you'd have a point

They seem pretty unnerved by the yellow vests

interesting article about the british media portrayal of yellow vests in france https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/04/why-arent-corbynistas-celebrating-the-gilets-jaunes/

butmuh European Union

the right said it is bad, so it's good

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https://twitter.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1124066807512535041

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/01/tories-should-allying-nigel-farage-not-jeremy-corbyn/

@OpenCube I am right wing on some issues :V
I'm not "all lefties are x all righties are y". But I guess I'd just appreciate it if there was a sort of brotherhood between all European ethnicities. We gotta stick together somehow, otherwise we will forever dance to the tune of some foreign world power (at least the US has much shared culture and history with us, but it's still annoying to play 2nd fiddle after the amerimutts).
We just have to keep the ~~Germans~~ bureaucrats from gobbling every bit of power up, and make it in such a way that it will be ruled for the wellbeing of OUR people, not for money or economic interests.

The German economic model is a pyramid scheme, it's a scam

The Germans may make trains run on time, but they know dick about what makes a society happy.

I'd agree with all that there are more important things than GDP, i'd measure the success of a society on the quality of life of the majority of individuals. Furthermore quality of life is not simply material wealth, its becoming clear that people have equally important psychological needs such as a sense of purpose in order to be happy.

i doubt people today are much happier than 100 years ago

From my (American) perspective there's no basic desire to lord it over y'all or anything. It's the trying to lecture us on how we should run the world when we're doing all the heavy lifting that pisses us off. I mean we got most of the oceans, most of the money, and damn near all the guns doing things our way. So when some dipshit (and I include our local dipshits in thee DNC) says we should do things *more like Europe* we kinda wish we would have let the Soviets have you.....

oh yeah my bad i got caught up in the making society happy part, i didn't especially agree with having to be a major player on the world stage i am happy to be more isolationist

Yeah the whole American Hegemony is kind of a comedy of errors. There's a great book on it *The Accidental Superpower* by Peter Zeihan.

At heart I am pretty isolationist. It's just that, looking at a global system and how much of the world depends on it. And that it's a system we made. You still want to pull out but you realize that doing so is not a simple task. Nature abhors a vacuum.

We fuck it up less than you lot would.

There is frankly no other nation in history that has had to operate forces of this magnitude and scale before, that also haven't destroyed themselves fantastically in doing so, other than America.

Regardless we likely are going to pull out. Without the Cold War there's no national interest for us to maintain the system. *how* we pull out matters I'm thinking about the mess after the colonial era here. Don't want to do that again.....

Oh you guys don't matter lol

Your shipping lanes ensure loyalty

What are you gonna do, raise taxes and rebuild your navy?

@EuropeanDerg

Doubtful, good for you if you do though.

@EnderOctanus That's not the problem. The shipping lanes don't really matter to us. The dirty little secret is the Us doesn't profit from them. Imports are only 12% of our GDP and 2/3rds of our imports are N. American. In a lot of other places imports are how they eat.

Who ever implied we profit?

We pay an enormous price to maintain the hegemony, a price that only we will stomach paying.

Are you gonna raise taxes or not?

Because with military expansion comes tension with the US, and you better be fucking sure that you can duke it out before you get complacent in said expansion.

Huh? Who? I'm American M8. Just musing about the instability in that system M8.