Message from @Murrax9
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What would the difference be?
The key is to look at the individual candidates. Because they can be vastly different like tradcon vs libertarian in Republicans or demsoc and Corp dem I democrats
Wouldn’t a 2 party system also have a coalition prior to elections?
Not necessarily. You can have a pure 2 party system. But the US isnt technically that.litterally the only difference between US and UK is what side of the election the coalitions form
And in regards to that, the reason my question came up is that all of the candidates tonight seemed exactly the same if I’m being honest
They all are just with the party line
And even then it is dicey. If the wrong candidate is chosen parts of the coallition break off. See when Bernie lost.
But ultimately there are two parties that support what the majority of the party supports
Most of today's were corpdems. The next one will have some flavor. But dems have been strange in that regardless of personal views the DNC (until recently) have been able to reign in dems to vote Corp dem. Republicans you see more conflict but they are many years into division in the party
But dems are seeing more of the conflict with the outspoken demsoc like AOC.
They all were for Medicare for all and most didn’t protest with open borders
That seems very socialist to me, or at least opposite of pro corporate
Not true, there were two moderates
In regards to what?
I forgot their names but one pushed for privatization
Cause that's the corpdem conceded so Medicare for all years ago to placate demsocs.
As for open borders. Cheap labor is very pro corp
Huh, I didn’t think of it that way
Makes sense now that I think about it
He opposed cutting private insurance
Yea Delaney wanted privatization and an option for free Medicare for all
Half of Medicare is paid for through a private insurance route option or something.
@EnderOctanus tbh that was the middle ground. The more dem soc are all med for all. The Corp dems have adopted a middle ground of "med and private"
So where would a conservative Democrat fall?
Corp dem?
Or just somewhere else?
@EnderOctanus no. There is an option for med advantage which is a private alternative but you pay the difference, and medigap which is all paid by the buyer
Closer to Tulsi
@Murrax9 depends on what status quo they are protecting.
But yea mostly Corp dem to Classical Liberal (though most of them have been pushed out)
They would be classical liberals.
Tulsi isnt classic lib
She is just an anti war corp dem
Who have joined the Republicans mostly
Which is rare but exists
Yeah that’s about where I fall. But I don’t agree with anyone on the democrats. Joe Manchin is the only guy I remotely agree with on that side
No I'm saying she's closest they showed to conservative
Do you think most people mean “someone who protects the status quo” when they say conservative?
Eh maybe on topics discussed, but even that she is....swishy washy. Since iirc she is pro amnesty.
@Murrax9 outside of the US yes
I mean inside the US