Message from @Fitzydog

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2019-07-13 23:18:14 UTC  

It's not tho

2019-07-13 23:18:20 UTC  

How do you know?

2019-07-13 23:18:31 UTC  

It's always been law for the past half century

2019-07-13 23:18:42 UTC  

Because comunities of racist exist that can support each other

2019-07-13 23:18:56 UTC  

Okay? Is that your community?

2019-07-13 23:19:09 UTC  

>It's always been law for the past half century
If a law was needed is it because the market was failing?

2019-07-13 23:19:18 UTC  

Should we eliminate the Japanese now? They're pretty racist.

2019-07-13 23:19:26 UTC  

My community? I've no sense of nationalism

2019-07-13 23:19:35 UTC  

Nationalism only creates problems and clonflics

2019-07-13 23:19:46 UTC  

breaking the borders brings freedom to all

2019-07-13 23:19:49 UTC  

No, actually, the Civil rights act was imposed even thought the market wanted to integrate blacks in the US

2019-07-13 23:19:54 UTC  

so it's a desirable goal

2019-07-13 23:20:32 UTC  

But I want borders. That's my freedom of association

2019-07-13 23:20:40 UTC  

Sounds like you don't like freedom

2019-07-13 23:20:53 UTC  

Well if your freedom inters with other's then it's time for you to stop 😃

2019-07-13 23:21:01 UTC  

Why?

2019-07-13 23:21:11 UTC  

Because you're violating other people's freedom

2019-07-13 23:21:23 UTC  

Their freedom of movement is interfering with my right to a quiet neighborhood

2019-07-13 23:21:24 UTC  

and we don't want that if we want to maximize freedom do we?

2019-07-13 23:22:15 UTC  

So let me get it right, two people want to associate with each others but you don't want them in "your" neighbourhood

2019-07-13 23:22:24 UTC  

How can my freedom interfere with someone else's freedom? That doesn't even make sense

2019-07-13 23:22:56 UTC  

@StevenStevens Yes, so what are the rules of the neighborhood?

2019-07-13 23:23:39 UTC  

If two people in El paso want to associate what right does someone that isn't even there have to tell them not to?

2019-07-13 23:23:49 UTC  

No one is telling you to open your house for them

2019-07-13 23:23:58 UTC  

The local laws of El paso are

2019-07-13 23:24:00 UTC  

altough the abolition of land lords is also desirable

2019-07-13 23:24:12 UTC  

Is it desirable?

2019-07-13 23:24:20 UTC  

That's a big assumption

2019-07-13 23:24:54 UTC  

It is for the citizens of a nation to decide border policy, thats what makes nations sovereign. No one else has the "right" to cross the border into to associate with someone else in the same way person A can't trespass on person B's property to associate with someone else if person B isn't consenting

2019-07-13 23:24:56 UTC  

This doesn't sound like freedom at all.

Sounds like some bastardized definition of freedom

2019-07-13 23:25:18 UTC  

Hell, freedom itself is a dumb word

2019-07-13 23:25:23 UTC  

Yes, people worrying about where to sleep and eat makes them less free, it's a loaded gun pushing them into actions they would otherwise not take

2019-07-13 23:25:37 UTC  

Define freedom

2019-07-13 23:25:54 UTC  

Living in a commune with my communist friends

2019-07-13 23:26:12 UTC  

That doesn't answer anything

2019-07-13 23:26:20 UTC  

That is true freedom

2019-07-13 23:26:29 UTC  

Okay, so freedom of association

2019-07-13 23:26:39 UTC  

You and your friends

2019-07-13 23:26:53 UTC  

Yes freedom from landlords

2019-07-13 23:27:00 UTC  

oppresive forces of the market

2019-07-13 23:27:04 UTC  

freedom from government