Message from @StevenStevens
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just as you for example think its reasonable to violate the freedom of inmates i believe
So freedom is not your goal at all.
Radical egalitarianism is
Not really, i think the market is pretty good at allocating resources
it has some inherent inequality tied to it
so yeah not really radical egalitarianism
You'd think the market would be good at selecting against racism as well
It's not tho
How do you know?
It's always been law for the past half century
Because comunities of racist exist that can support each other
Okay? Is that your community?
>It's always been law for the past half century
If a law was needed is it because the market was failing?
Should we eliminate the Japanese now? They're pretty racist.
My community? I've no sense of nationalism
Nationalism only creates problems and clonflics
breaking the borders brings freedom to all
No, actually, the Civil rights act was imposed even thought the market wanted to integrate blacks in the US
so it's a desirable goal
But I want borders. That's my freedom of association
Sounds like you don't like freedom
Why?
Because you're violating other people's freedom
Their freedom of movement is interfering with my right to a quiet neighborhood
and we don't want that if we want to maximize freedom do we?
So let me get it right, two people want to associate with each others but you don't want them in "your" neighbourhood
How can my freedom interfere with someone else's freedom? That doesn't even make sense
@StevenStevens Yes, so what are the rules of the neighborhood?
If two people in El paso want to associate what right does someone that isn't even there have to tell them not to?
No one is telling you to open your house for them
The local laws of El paso are
altough the abolition of land lords is also desirable
Is it desirable?
That's a big assumption
It is for the citizens of a nation to decide border policy, thats what makes nations sovereign. No one else has the "right" to cross the border into to associate with someone else in the same way person A can't trespass on person B's property to associate with someone else if person B isn't consenting
This doesn't sound like freedom at all.
Sounds like some bastardized definition of freedom
Hell, freedom itself is a dumb word
Yes, people worrying about where to sleep and eat makes them less free, it's a loaded gun pushing them into actions they would otherwise not take
Define freedom
Living in a commune with my communist friends
That doesn't answer anything