Message from @Deleted User
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what you said implies that the understanding of and ability to use a technology should be arbitrarily decided by some random person
while what I said implies that the user understand what the hell they're doing when they use the internet
a bunch of words for a bunch of air
yes, mostly because english is not my first language so I could not think of the terms that I should be using
but essentially what you said is that "there are rules on the internet, and we don't like it when people are doxxed, so these people should have their internet license revoked"
but who determines the rules?
what I said is "the people who got doxxed should've known better, they've clearly put their information in an unsecure location"
No
you interpreted that
yes, that's why I used the word "essentially"
and "what you said implies"
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what is that, a deep frying basket? :P
dox = morally grey then I guess
no no, I don't think so at all
ok
sure
Can you even sue for that!?
"Kaspersky Lab, a massive, Russian cybersecurity company, sued the Trump administration in U.S. federal court on Monday, arguing that the American government deprived it of due process rights when Homeland Security Secretary Elaine Duke banned its software from U.S. government agencies in September.
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Not even banning to private citizens
well, it's a very complicated case, so it's right of them to sue for it at least
tbh I've never heard of Kaspersky
but my immediate reaction is that the administration is obviously allowed to do this
The government can say "No Coca-Cola allowed in government agencies"
yes but the problem is that someone, somewhere, has accused Kaspersky of essentially being a front for Putin
so some people in the government has picked up on this
“The case against Kaspersky is well-documented and deeply concerning. This law is long overdue,” said Democratic Senator Jeanne Shaheen.
they should of said, "Kaspersky is worse than that cancer McAfee"
and she is mistaken, it's not well-documented at all
I agree
and I agree that they should be able to just say "we'd rather use american products", or "go fuck yourself"
I'd make the arguement that most anti-virus products are crap
you'd be correct
Would this scenario even happen in norway?
well, we're in a weird situation, because we have a decent IT security team at the national level, and decent governing regulations for what companies are allowed to do etc (though obviously not perfect)
but all our governments day to day software and hardware security is absolutely atrocious
you can walk into practically any office and take over their network within seconds
wait what!?
well, they have exposed wifi networks, all computers are accessible over the counters with exposed USB ports
all employees use their own phones on internal networks