they are integrating them right, but there are too many people coming

half a million?

too many people

weeeell, did you see the article earlier about swiss integration?

[4:41 PM] folk: "If you live in Switzerland, i.e. hold a valid Swiss residence or settlement permit (see list of questions on entries and stays in Switzerland) and meet the requirements, you will be entitled to receive unemployment benefits. Your nationality does not affect your entitlement to unemployment benefits."
[4:41 PM] Reaps: <:think_woke:378717098681171988>
[4:43 PM] folk: you can't apply for citizenship while receiving those benefits apparently
[4:45 PM] folk: also, you need to pass a written language test, and have lived permanently in switzerland for 5 or 10 years, depending on your country of origin
[4:47 PM] folk: have no criminal convictions, "pose no threat to the country", and also "demonstrate social integration"
[4:47 PM] folk: I believe that last requirement there is mostly done by getting neighbours and such to write a letter where they vouch for you
[4:47 PM] folk: (the closest neighbour who is a citizen)
[4:48 PM] folk: "Candidates must demonstrate A2 level writing ability and B1 spoken skills under the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages."
[4:48 PM] folk: https://www.ch.ch/en/regular-naturalisation-requirements/
[4:49 PM] folk: "Most cantons and/or communes require you to face an interview to prove your integration and knowledge of Switzerland where you could be quizzed on anything from the number of lakes in your canton to which days are public holidays and the names of local traditions and festivals. In some cases a communal residents’ committee gathers to vote on your application, so it pays to keep in with the locals – last year a Dutch woman hit the headlines after she was turned down by her community for campaigning against cowbells (though she later won citizenship on appeal)."
[4:49 PM] folk: canton is a district/county
[4:49 PM] folk: this seems like a great system

"Switzerland has banned citizenship to anyone who has lived on welfare in the country in the previous three years unless they pay back the money they received."

that's a pretty redpilled citizenship policy

Can they apply again after 3 years of no welfare?

they can apply after 5 or 10 years of permanent residency, like I said in the quote above, and then they need to pass all those tests

if they've paid back the money they got during those 5-10 years

5 or 10 years depends on which country they're immigrating from, I don't know which countries are 5 or 10 specifically

I'm sure there's a list somewhere

Man

that's a great immigration policy

because

it's easy for hard work people who wants to live in a better place

but, hard for people who wants to leech the system

every 10th welfare cheque should come with an injection that has a 1 in 10 chance of euthanizing the recipient...

Watch as all the leeches go out and get jobs

Speaking of Haiti, the Clintons are currently buying huge amounts of land over there, especially the lands that have mining potential (mining is virtually non-existant there). The problem is that, under the Haitian constitution, only Haitians can buy land. Corporations or rich individuals buying land abroad is not uncommon, but you have to admit that they are either powerful or connected with the leaders over there to allow for this to happen.

Source: My taxi-driver friend

As for the switzerland immigration policy, it looks good but I suspect that only very attractive countries (those who have a huge immigration pull) can afford to be so strict

To apply these rules with an unattractive destination could be dire

If the destination is unattractive you're probably a skilled worker on a very lucrative permit

Or a do gooding charity worker

or a pedophile

lol

^^

I guess it also depends on the nature of your economy, if you have a high-technology industry, great, let competent people in. But if you have an economy based on primary resources or that involve tons of cheap labour, the immigration policies should reflect your needs *if* you are using immigration mostly for economical reasons.

I think that my over-arching point is that immigration rules should not be based on ideology but more so on practical or pragmatic reasons

So if you have lot's of a people out of work, don't import a bunch more people. Shocking

lol ya

that's racist I'm afraid

if you use immigration for economical reasons

For example, when the English fought the french in the New World, they won! but they where kind of f*cked up... their population was 10 times smaller

On both sides, they started mass immigration programs "to get the numbers"

They would kidnap drunk people comming back from the bar, both in france and england, shove them in a boat and they would end up here

Other reasons for immigration are for your world reputation

Typically, this happens with refugees mind you so it's a different context

I'm sorry there are poor people in other countries and they need to be poor here instead

sod trying to actually build anything there

that's colonialism