Message from @folk
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fuck
goddamnit how are we going to patrol the mojave now
it would not function
Google Texas
it has it's own everything
water power
illegal immigration
That's Federal
Texas is the UK but in the US?
wot
Texas is an island
Broo wtf
are you being challenged?
nope
[1:40 PM] Smak64: I'm not taking offense, nor am I assuming you meant to give it, I'm saying it's a position so stupid that I'd actually say accusing someone of holding it is ad hominem
[1:41 PM] Smak64: But anyhow, we're more or less back and forth on that and really all we can do with it is agree to disagree.
I don't agree to disagree
Okay, well then it just goes into a back and forth and nobody gets anywhere
I don't agree to that either, you say I accused you of holding a belief, but that's not true, I said if you believe A then I don't see why you wouldn't believe B, to point out the absurdity of the belief
and get you to reconsider
we've been over this before here in voice chat, I believe the conclusion we reached then was that approximately 95-98% of all purported "hate crimes" are fake
then you started arguing for the case you linked
but your arguments carry no weight, because of precedent and statistics
it's reasonable to assume that it's fake until proven otherwise
And I ended it with saying that I'm going to investigate it more, to see what I can find out
See if any more info comes up
that's fair enough, that's not a point of contention
The point we ended up arguing on is if saying someone might believe that communism hasn't really been tried yet is ad hominem or not
yes but that's not what I said, I've explained that now
"Today is the first time we've heard there are additional suspects out there, this contradicts what they have been saying, [Sheriff] Lombardo has said there are no other suspects," Maggie McCletchie, a lawyer for the media outlets said.
Okay, and what I've said regarding that is I think saying it is ad hominem because, at least in my mind, to believe that communism has not yet really been tried is such an absurd and, frankly, moronic position that it fails entirely as a level comparison
Like comparing an apple to a rotten and smashed to bits apple, they're not equivalent
obviously I disagree entirely with that, or I wouldn't have used it to make a point
Which is why I ended up just saying this is more or less just a back and forth, and all we can really do is agree to disagree
We're obviously not going to convince each other and won't get anywhere
that's not true, you're saying I used an ad hominem, and speculating on my motives
And I'm saying it's an ad hominem because your comparison fails in that comparing thinking a "hate crime" might actually have been done by the alt-right to believing that communism has not yet really been tried is an absolute shit comparison, especially when I said I'm going to look further into it. My position is in no way as absurd as saying communism hasn't been tried yet really.
I'll grant you that I said I'd look into it after the comparison
you've already said that, and it's just not true, they're entirely apt comparisons
but you've come back to it now to contest it
one belief is that in spite of 95+% of reported cases being hoaxes, this specific one might be worth reading about or looking into