I think so too

Honestly the US should just split up into individual states and forbid each other from allying with any other state

then we can finally move in and have some actual usable land

instead of just snow, natives, and *quebec*

Oh I had the map backwards

yes, I think we agree then :P

Kek

I think prefer the state of Jefferson to New California

NCR when?

...you know what

we should get new california to become a thing

just so it can become a republic

it can't

fuck

goddamnit how are we going to patrol the mojave now

it would not function

Google Texas

it has it's own everything

water power

illegal immigration

That's Federal

Texas is the UK but in the US?

wot

Texas is an island

Broo wtf

are you being challenged?

nope

[1:40 PM] Smak64: I'm not taking offense, nor am I assuming you meant to give it, I'm saying it's a position so stupid that I'd actually say accusing someone of holding it is ad hominem
[1:41 PM] Smak64: But anyhow, we're more or less back and forth on that and really all we can do with it is agree to disagree.

I don't agree to disagree

Okay, well then it just goes into a back and forth and nobody gets anywhere

I don't agree to that either, you say I accused you of holding a belief, but that's not true, I said if you believe A then I don't see why you wouldn't believe B, to point out the absurdity of the belief

and get you to reconsider

we've been over this before here in voice chat, I believe the conclusion we reached then was that approximately 95-98% of all purported "hate crimes" are fake

that's all I wanted to say

then you started arguing for the case you linked

but your arguments carry no weight, because of precedent and statistics

it's reasonable to assume that it's fake until proven otherwise

And I ended it with saying that I'm going to investigate it more, to see what I can find out

See if any more info comes up

that's fair enough, that's not a point of contention

The point we ended up arguing on is if saying someone might believe that communism hasn't really been tried yet is ad hominem or not