Message from @DanielKO

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2018-02-28 12:53:46 UTC  

other symbols

2018-02-28 12:53:53 UTC  

faces of nazi personalities

2018-02-28 12:54:33 UTC  

and even WW1 symbols that were simply reused for propaganda purposes at the time

2018-02-28 12:54:34 UTC  

and herrrrrrrrre weeeeeee

2018-02-28 12:54:34 UTC  

go

2018-02-28 12:55:29 UTC  

From a european standpoint both sides look ridiculous

2018-02-28 12:55:40 UTC  

the gun control people have no idea what they're arguing for or why

2018-02-28 12:56:04 UTC  

and the pro-gunners go **"WHAT IF WE SUDDENLY LIVE IN ORWELLS NIGHTMARE AND HAVE TO DEFEND US FROM THE STATE"**

God guns so BORING

2018-02-28 13:03:24 UTC  

They also want to be able to defend themselves from criminals.

Just go and try and take the guns

2018-02-28 13:04:34 UTC  

At least in Germany it's better than in Canada, regarding self defense.

2018-02-28 13:06:06 UTC  

According to Joerg Sprave, you can use the least amount if force to end the threat. If it happens to be a gun, that's fine.

2018-02-28 13:07:15 UTC  

So if someone enters your home, you can point a gun at the intruder. If the threat doesn't end, you can shoot to kill.

2018-02-28 13:07:38 UTC  

you may or may not get in trouble if you shoot to kill immediately

2018-02-28 13:07:52 UTC  

because we have a law stating that self-defense shouldn't be excessive

2018-02-28 13:07:58 UTC  

but in general yes that's true

2018-02-28 13:08:10 UTC  

Which is where the "least amount of force" comes in.

2018-02-28 13:09:05 UTC  

In Canada, you're fucked. Even if it was your last resort, you'll face man slaughter charges.

2018-02-28 13:09:27 UTC  

Canada is just fucked in general in that regard

2018-02-28 13:09:58 UTC  

someone breaks in here I can pick up my bow and threaten to shoot

2018-02-28 13:10:23 UTC  

and if he does shit and I panic shot with a bow it's pretty much 99% lethal if it hits

2018-02-28 13:10:52 UTC  

I was looking for info on this the other day. It pretty much is "yes, it's illegal to shoot somebody to save your life; but still, better jailed than dead."

2018-02-28 13:11:14 UTC  

Funny thing about bows is

2018-02-28 13:11:27 UTC  

and yeah it's probably easier to get a gun license than learn to shoot a bow if you doN't like bows

2018-02-28 13:11:38 UTC  

but you get pretty much off the hook with a bow

2018-02-28 13:11:52 UTC  

because it's really hard not to kill someone in self-defense with a bow

2018-02-28 13:12:28 UTC  

chest-dead, abdomen-dead, hip-dead, leg-crippled, shoulder-nervous shock, head-dead

2018-02-28 13:13:00 UTC  

which is why we're told to shoot at the arms or lower legs

2018-02-28 13:13:25 UTC  

but that's not exactly how self-defence works out when it happens is it

2018-02-28 14:04:42 UTC  

Who's told to shoot arms or lower legs? Real life isn't Hollywood.

2018-02-28 14:05:09 UTC  

In real life, people miss shots. Not everyone can headshot everything like The Walking Dead characters.

2018-02-28 14:05:26 UTC  

Always go for the center of mass.

2018-02-28 14:06:19 UTC  

And, a single bullet doesn't stop an aggressor full of adrenaline or drugs. Unload at least half of the magazine.

2018-02-28 14:07:03 UTC  

Watch Donut Operator on YouTube to see plenty of examples of criminals not stopping with the first bullet.

2018-02-28 14:12:12 UTC  

people say things about shooting with nonlethal intent because they don't want to think of themselves as potential killers

2018-02-28 14:13:09 UTC  

we're not "told" that, by any real authority anyway