Orrrrrrrrrr much, much sooner.

Blame Trump! Oh wait...

just in case I'm somehow first: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qumybkgxo5lb8kx/20180418%20Damore,%20et%20al.%20v.%20Google%20-%20FAC.pdf?dl=0

Your days are numbered goat fucker

Can you be sure he won't manage to rig the election?

I somehow doubt something like that would be beyond him.

No I can't because that's literally what he did during the referendum <:GWnanamiWhenLifeGetsAtYou:398860996535386126>

Yeah

and nobody of importance will care if he does. Sure, other countries will probably condemn it with some flowery words, if discovered, but when has that ever helped.

They should fucking care <:GWnanamiWakeMeUpInside:402195729726046221>

I know they don't

But they're idiots

Losing turkey's massive army to an islamist dictator would be huge for NATO

on paper, yeah, but armies haven't been very relevant in the kind of warfare we're looking at, in the not too far off future.

I don't think anyone wants to actually nuke Turkey, though, so it's hard to say what would happen if he invaded Greece

You'd still lose billions worth of equipment and millions of soldiers

Plus you wouldn't be able to maintain a black sea presence

Yes, short term that might very well be a huge problem, but long term it feels like it would be of little consequence, especially if future wars do not involve soldiers for anything but garrison duty.

Do you think losing Germany or France or Britain would be a problem for NATO, because Turkey has or at least had the biggest army behind America <:GWnanamiWakeMeUpInside:402195729726046221>

Short term, yes. Long term, no. An army will be mostly irrelevant, if you have drone forces doing all the actual "fighting".

Plus restoring the economy to pre-EU fuckery would make things really nasty

and that is what most nations are aiming at.

Yes, but if that's what the Turks want, and it seems to be, then how exactly would democratic nations justify intervening?

Voting fraud hasn't made much of a difference before, in such decisions.

Well they wouldn't I'm just saying that Turkey is important to NATO, they should care about voter fraud and if they don't and leave it to Erdogan they lose way too much strategic ground <:GWnanamiWhenLifeGetsAtYou:398860996535386126>

I'm sure they care, but I sincerely doubt they'll ever do anything about it.

~~Also morality and shit but who gives a fuck about morality in international politics~~

too many unknowns.

IYI is already polling higher than the AKP though not to mention the other parties still exist

How many of his Islamist followers will take up arms against an interventionist force, and how many of them would go the route of terror after Erdogan is defeated

Pretty sure if Aksener is succesful there's going to be so much islamic terror

But that's not a problem for Tuekey because they've been dealing with terror groups for decades

hopefully the people there won't stand for his eventual rigging

Up until the election it's still a parliamentary democracy

So if he just loses his majority

All other parties can join together in condemnation of him

but hoping for outside interference would be naive

I'm not <:GWnanamiWhenLifeGetsAtYou:398860996535386126>

I just want it to not be rigged

And you started with the noone will care thing anyways <:GWnanamiWhenLifeGetsAtYou:398860996535386126>

because that's what history has shown