Message from @franti

Discord ID: 482186076014903316


2018-08-23 13:24:25 UTC  

my country is fucked

2018-08-23 13:24:29 UTC  

can the US annex us please

Could be worse

2018-08-23 13:27:58 UTC  

they're fucked

2018-08-23 13:28:16 UTC  

@nic nah, too many leftists

2018-08-23 13:28:30 UTC  

you guys have clementine ford ffs

2018-08-23 13:30:11 UTC  

the US has plenty of Helicopters, I fail to see the problem

2018-08-23 13:44:05 UTC  

ok that law is more totalitarian than I thought

2018-08-23 13:44:16 UTC  

like this is really bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/377519739380957184/482183296533528586/unknown.png

2018-08-23 13:44:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/377519739380957184/482183333669896202/unknown.png

2018-08-23 13:44:36 UTC  

>The amendment also provides that in determining whether an alleged offender has commited the poposed offence of intentionally or recklessley inciting violence, **it is irrelevant whether or not, in response to the alleged offender's public act, any person formed a state of mind or carried out any act of violence**
>for the purposes of the proposed offence a public act includes any form of communication (including speaking, writing, displaying notes, playing of recorded material, broadcasting and communicating through social media and other electonic methods) to the public

2018-08-23 13:51:47 UTC  

@nic reading on a news article about it, I guess from reading it it's only suppose to be for new south wales?

2018-08-23 13:52:31 UTC  

yes, its a NSW law

2018-08-23 13:52:40 UTC  

but NSW laws quickly get passed around everywhere else

2018-08-23 13:53:49 UTC  

@nic loads of countries have those laws. just for race. Like in Beazil

2018-08-23 13:54:23 UTC  

do they have a clause where you can be imprisoned because they think your post was reckless?

2018-08-23 13:54:26 UTC  

because that's what this law has

2018-08-23 13:54:52 UTC  

they can just decide that some guy bashing a gay guy was inspired by your post critising the LGBT and lock you in the slammer for 3 years

2018-08-23 13:55:19 UTC  

Well you can be arrested for posting racist things

2018-08-23 13:55:49 UTC  

It literally explicitly does not say that about imprisoning

2018-08-23 13:56:00 UTC  

@nic The question is whether or not the post is a threat or not

2018-08-23 13:56:11 UTC  

it very explicitly says that it has nothing to do with people acting on your post, only the contents of the post

2018-08-23 13:57:06 UTC  

From what I see it's a law against inciting violence against people using a public platform,

2018-08-23 13:57:11 UTC  

doesn't matter if it's a threat or not, as you can see by public act a), it just needs to be public and "reckless"

2018-08-23 13:57:24 UTC  

all that needs to happen is a gay guy gets punched

2018-08-23 13:57:32 UTC  

and if they can link you to it, they will

2018-08-23 13:57:40 UTC  

and you can't argue against it, because your intent doesn't matter

2018-08-23 13:57:56 UTC  

No it doesn't

Hey Nic you're <:gay:382982146249326612>

2018-08-23 13:58:40 UTC  

@nic Intentionally and recklessly inciting violence
that's the phrasing
it's not
a post that is internationally reckless, or incites violence

2018-08-23 13:59:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/377519739380957184/482187075106373633/unknown.png

2018-08-23 13:59:26 UTC  

recklessly is used as an adjective in reference to the incitement of violence in that sentence

2018-08-23 13:59:41 UTC  

` Intentionally and recklessly`
Intentionally **or** recklessly

2018-08-23 13:59:52 UTC  

ffs gypsy

2018-08-23 13:59:58 UTC  

read da englith

2018-08-23 14:00:21 UTC  

it's worded in such a manner that they can ignore your intent and connect it to any violence or threat towards LGBT people

2018-08-23 14:01:01 UTC  

but it has to be threatening violence
that's the crime
not being reckless

2018-08-23 14:01:26 UTC  

you
don't
have
to
be
the
one
threatening
you
just
need
to
be
connected
to
it
somehow

2018-08-23 14:01:36 UTC  

whether you know the person or not