Message from @TMatthews
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@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Right and wrong. There are many pro-white positions and individuals that we want to stay far the heck away from - radicals, extremists (literally) insane people and especially ideologues.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN this so much
@Deleted User I prioritize people over the ideology, but I get what you're saying.
okay fair enough, there are some pro-white ideologies that suck, but I'll take a bad pro-white one over an otherwise good anti-white one
And of course there's a difference between "What's good for I.E." and "what's okay out in the wild on its own"
Ben Shapiro>Siegetards
It'll be a cold day in Hell before Americans accept a theocratic monarchy or nazbol, pro-white or not
I argue Striker is not for I.E., but I'm glad he's out there. Getting Tankies to value the 14 words is still a net upgrade.
Your flexibility is good, but we need to think pragmatically - what appeals to the avg American? Pine Tree Gang? White Juche? National Bolshevism?
No.
"America is a Nation of Laws"
"BUILD THE WALL, BUILD THE WALL, BUILD THE WALL"
"OUT OUT OUT!"
this is what appeals to the American man.\
@NateDahl76 "I don't care about the browning of America..." ~Ben Shapiro
@TMatthews Not to LARP, but obviously that would be in a post-America, several generations later scenario.
Yeah but he teaches young white men to stand up for their values @Asatru Artist - MD
lol no he doesn't
Oy!
he teaches them to stand up for Israel
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Okay, look, I'll take Ben Shapiro over LITERAL Siege
He’s also opposed to degeneracy
@Deleted User Agreed. MAGA works for now, provided it fulfills its potential / promises.
I said "bad", not "horrible" for a reason
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Post America is likely to come, but the influences of old America will remain. It's better for us to reclaim the founding fathers than go against them
Videos of him btfoing trannies and BLM people really pushed me in the right direction tbh
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN exactly, we embrace what works and eschew what fails. basic shit.
not too hard to btfo the mentally ill 😉
@TMatthews I agree. I'm not trying to larp. I only cited all of the ends of the "dissident right" (lol we are truly diverse) to demonstrate that I DON'T CARE about ideology
I totally agree with the whole appealing to civnats thing, but, hypothetically, if I had to chose a way to run a country, civic nationalism is useless
@Jacob Civic Nationalism is a much better social regime than what we are currently exposed to.
Well that's not true. I have opinions. I guess what I mean is I'm not interested in ideological purity. Which means, yes, I can work with MAGA
Is it? It just delays us becoming a minority by like 5 years. The end result is the same.
I rejected basic tenets of leftist ideology in part because of Ben Shapiro. I rejected the systematic white supremacy stuff and gender queer bs
Civic nationalism is not a viable solution, but there are civnats that literally want to deport 30 million people. Strategically finding common ground with them is good politics
Well, it's also worth pointing out that civnats are on a spectrum
You can plug a hole with cement or chewing gum. Just get the hole plugged.
If you don't have cement, get to chewing.
"End immigration" civic nationalism is useful, "I love legal immigration" civic nationalism is literally the same end result as liberalism
us = cement, civnats = chewing gum, GOP = fishnet
A lot of civnats know deep down that we are right. We just have to break the stranglehold that the moral paradigm of "racism" holds over them
Mass importation of Asians actually makes the average white an underclass quicker than mass mestizo. Of course the problem is now we have both happening.
@Jacob, Civnats literally want to physically round up 11 million human beings and build a several thousand mile long wall at our Mexican border. - If you don't see a CivNat regime as a massive improvement to our current political order you are blind
IQ nationalism isn't real nationalism
@Asatru Artist - MD Problem is, a lot of the time civnats don't want to fix the hole