Message from @banestrum

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2018-03-22 02:28:36 UTC  

what you're saying is that

2018-03-22 02:28:48 UTC  

Damian == being a dip

2018-03-22 02:28:58 UTC  

also something about lobsters presumably

2018-03-22 02:29:18 UTC  

=/=

2018-03-22 02:29:27 UTC  

It's funny that you guys rail against sjws but love identity politics at the same time

2018-03-22 02:29:34 UTC  

[gets blown 3 miles back by dave rubin's attack helicopter arm spin]

2018-03-22 02:29:45 UTC  

special attack?

2018-03-22 02:29:53 UTC  

for it to be amusing that we "love identity politics" would require that to actually be the case. AFAICT, it is not.

2018-03-22 02:30:03 UTC  

It's funny you to claim to be a libertarian but then advocate for wealth redistrbution

2018-03-22 02:30:18 UTC  

I don't love identity politics

2018-03-22 02:30:37 UTC  

I think it's a potent weapon that I can't afford to not take advantage of, especially considering the high stakes

2018-03-22 02:30:58 UTC  

How is nationalism not identity politics?

2018-03-22 02:31:06 UTC  

how is it?

2018-03-22 02:31:26 UTC  

It doesn't need to be identity politics in the sense I think you see it in

2018-03-22 02:31:47 UTC  

Entitlement mentality based on identity

2018-03-22 02:31:54 UTC  

It doesn't need to be a divisive form of identity politics, in fact it's purpose is to bring many peoples together under one banner

2018-03-22 02:32:04 UTC  

wat

2018-03-22 02:32:06 UTC  

Let's use Rome as an example

2018-03-22 02:32:26 UTC  

😕

2018-03-22 02:32:33 UTC  

1. entitlement to what? 2. based on what identity? 3. mentality of whom?

2018-03-22 02:32:46 UTC  

They were pretty nationalistic but integrated other tribes into their system through subsuming them into the national identity

2018-03-22 02:33:14 UTC  

globalism is an entitlement mentality

2018-03-22 02:33:39 UTC  

Some groups became noteworthy for their skill in particular forms of combat, some became model citizens who adapted quickly to the Roman way of life, etc

2018-03-22 02:33:51 UTC  

the auxilleries right @banestrum

2018-03-22 02:33:56 UTC  

People kept as much of their smaller group identity as was useful to society

2018-03-22 02:33:58 UTC  

When in Rome do as the Romans do

2018-03-22 02:34:05 UTC  

@Deleted User Yeah, and some calvalry

2018-03-22 02:34:26 UTC  

@Deleted User Yes, but not because conformity is easy, but because it is mutually beneficial

2018-03-22 02:34:43 UTC  

Not total conformity, but enough that you and some totally different people can work together

2018-03-22 02:35:03 UTC  

Conform to our religious cult

2018-03-22 02:35:10 UTC  

>implying globalism isn't conformity

2018-03-22 02:35:14 UTC  

for example: I am Canadian, and rather proud of it. Canada is a rather nice country to live in.
This is not an identity in any meaningful sense. Canadians, even the most strident flag-wavers among them, do not consist of an identity bloc. There are no identity politics going on here. There is no complaint, for example, about under-representation of Canadian citizens on the world-political stage or whatever. there is no basis from which such a complaint could be made.

2018-03-22 02:36:04 UTC  

if by "religious cult" you mean "local law", sure. how is replacing this with global law any better? If anything, you deprive people of the opportunity to seek out a different locality with a legal system they prefer.

2018-03-22 02:36:38 UTC  

If Roman armies, with all their auxilaries, irregular troops, standardized equipment, and multinational manpower don't represent one of the greatest achievements of nationalism to you, then I don't know what to say.

2018-03-22 02:36:43 UTC  

all you have is empty rhetoric here, @Deleted User .

2018-03-22 02:37:15 UTC  

@zahlman I believe the only thing he has is sophistry and quotes no one gives a shit about

2018-03-22 02:37:50 UTC  

well, yes; that's the form of the rhetoric generally

2018-03-22 02:37:58 UTC  

@Deleted User Globalism is economic colonization and mutual wage slavery on an unprecedented scale, and all parties are worse for it. No nation is self sufficient, all are exploited, and national pride in unique products and labors is reduced to gross GDP

2018-03-22 02:38:07 UTC  

^

2018-03-22 02:38:25 UTC  

^^

2018-03-22 02:38:56 UTC  

Rome had the right idea, beat people until they comply, and then show them how nice you live.