@Reaps

Isn't she from your country?

So it's your fault

somehow.

It is

i'm not saying keep secrets, or be two faced about it.

Lol

you can be honest with them as well

but that doesnt mean you cant discuss them outside of their presence

@Deleted User I just don't really go around talking shit about people behind their back, to me it seems petty and leaves me with no honor

It's how I've always been

Just naturally

That is what I am like

oh yeah, i forgot we were talking about talking shit, i was talking about talking in general and being honest about it

but yeah i agree with you on that

unless you already talk shit to their face, then i dont have a problem talking shit when they arent there

``` I just don't really go around talking shit about people behind their back, to me it seems petty and leaves me with no honor```It's only dishonest if you're being dishonest in what you're saying in your shittalk.

I just think manipulating others view of a person by talking about them without them there to defend themselves isn't right

Because obviously you are going to change peoples views of that person based on what you say

and without them there to give their rebuttal

it seems unfair

@Chloé Adsolution You might not have a fair representation of them.

According to them

It's your perspective

and they aren't there to correct you

it isnt always malicious though

```Because obviously you are going to change peoples views of that person based on what you say```That's completely true, but you guys talk about other people all the time without them being around, like JF or Dankula

(I still don't know who JF is lol)

sometimes it's just venting with your friends

It's not a bad thing.

Discussion is healthy.

i agree

aslong as you are being a massive dick about it and trying to ruin someone

Well I don't see people talking shit about Dankula but they do talk shit about JF behind his back and I don't like it, which I why I actually try to offer up his perspective on things when people are here talking shit.

Which is why some people don't like me here

because I try to talk for him

If you have one friend you're really concerned about and want to talk about things you've observed about them to your other friends, it would be really inappropriate to have the person there.

think what he would say, etc

i hear you, but are we ever going to be in a discussion with JF? and if we arent, then is it just off limits to talk about him?

i mean come on dude

You can be