Message from @Fulcrum010
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if it is disrespected by politicans, they get thrown out
This idea that "we have guns, so we are free" it's ridiculous
even if you had direct land border and no US military, you would have to outnumber us.
we have guns so we are free = we are free so long as there's not a bigger force of opinion to gun us down
@Fulcrum010 thats a simplistic take.
Your government spy the living shit out of every single human being on earth
@radeon
Because your take is simplistic
we have guns ***because*** we are free.
it is the means by which we ensure that freedom
I think guns would also guarantee freedom
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we ensure our freedom with our demoractic right to protest and to vote for whoever represents us best or to campaign if we don't think the person in charge is doing a good job
"we have guns, so we are free, anyone else that don't have guns live in a dictatorship" for fuck sake
What sort of fucking autism came through here?
ok, so what do you do when your parliment votes to stop all elections and repeal the constitution?
or simply ignore your rights?
your rights are words on paper, they mean nothing without enforcement.
@radeon get fucked is the answer to that, my dude
The idea that a lack of guns is dictatorship is dumb
You revolt.
The legal acess to weapon means shit during a revolution
With guns or no guns
a lack of guns is absolutely neccesary for dictatorship, yes
Especially since the government has really big guns
before this inevitably turns into the US gun owners vs. the military argument, let me nip that in the bud by saying that isn't what we're talking about
if they violate our basic law
to such a massive extent
goddamn
without a democratic mandate
people will find their weapons
would you guys like to take this shit to <#372513679964635138> or <#412721382003179530> ?
the police and military that oppose this decision will provide their arms as well
the point of the second amendment is to basically hold a preverbial gun to the federal governments head and prevent tyranny from ever starting
Having guns is one of the indicators of a free society, but to claim that not having guns means living in a dictatorship is just obnoxious.
Let's not fall into the trap of dealing with absolutes, the world its not black and white, everything is different shades of grey
to stop another revolution before it is ever neccesary
tbh having a gun is a completely cultural thing
if you go to 99% of countries and talk to them about their right to carry arms they'll look at you like you're a lunatic
*western countries
if you have no means of defending your freedoms then you're just waiting for the next dictator. How many tyrants has europe had in the time the US has existed? a dozen? 20? 30?
@radeon
What will stop a tyrant government is not the guns of the people, it's the will of the people to not live under a dictatorship
It's all about mindset