We push for more or less priviledges as a democracy

the only way to guarantee your liberty is by having an insurance plan in the form of an armed people. How do you oppress people with rifles? You kick one door down and get riddled with gunfire.

Under the framework of what the basic law grants us

This is why the US is uninvadeable.

and despite the government allowing us certain things

the basic law is still inalienable

We are literally immune to foreign takeover

Having or not having arms mean shit.

Armed people can be alienated

No, geography is why

if it is disrespected by politicans, they get thrown out

This idea that "we have guns, so we are free" it's ridiculous

even if you had direct land border and no US military, you would have to outnumber us.

we have guns so we are free = we are free so long as there's not a bigger force of opinion to gun us down

@Fulcrum010 thats a simplistic take.

Your government spy the living shit out of every single human being on earth

@radeon
Because your take is simplistic

we have guns ***because*** we are free.

it is the means by which we ensure that freedom

I think guns would also guarantee freedom

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we ensure our freedom with our demoractic right to protest and to vote for whoever represents us best or to campaign if we don't think the person in charge is doing a good job

"we have guns, so we are free, anyone else that don't have guns live in a dictatorship" for fuck sake

What sort of fucking autism came through here?

ok, so what do you do when your parliment votes to stop all elections and repeal the constitution?

or simply ignore your rights?

your rights are words on paper, they mean nothing without enforcement.

@radeon get fucked is the answer to that, my dude

The idea that a lack of guns is dictatorship is dumb

You revolt.

The legal acess to weapon means shit during a revolution

If people want to revolt againt their government they do

With guns or no guns

a lack of guns is absolutely neccesary for dictatorship, yes

Especially since the government has really big guns

before this inevitably turns into the US gun owners vs. the military argument, let me nip that in the bud by saying that isn't what we're talking about

if they violate our basic law

to such a massive extent

goddamn

without a democratic mandate

people will find their weapons

would you guys like to take this shit to <#372513679964635138> or <#412721382003179530> ?

the police and military that oppose this decision will provide their arms as well