lol

this austism is

or we continue to elect the party that thought it was a good idea because we thought it was a good idea

its fairly obvious that a totally armed people are impossible to oppress without killing everyone which would defeat the purpose of occupying a territory.

other than resources

India and all the colonies got their independence just fine without toting guns

because it was given to them, dumbass.

That is because Britain isn't a dictatorship

I just find this idea of voting away the tyranny to absurd

Britain isn't a dictatorship yes

@Ϻ14ᛟ it wasn't , now I'm not so sure

but it didn't exactly get given to themn

there was nothing stopping the british from continuing to oppress the indians, they stopped for diplomatic reasons.

You know Gandhi said if it were any other nation in control of India they would have already put a bullet in his head for rallying against him

But British people were not like that, despite occupying the land

my point isn't that Britain was tyrannical

Britain isn't a dictatorship ~~yes~~ yet

because liberalism

@radeon It will never happen to us is the mindset wich gets you into the siad situation in the first place

my point is that there are other ways of achieving freedom than guns or elections

it's both wrong to state elections or guns are foolproof

you had to find a very niche case in which a country intentionally surrendered control

india didn't win their independence, they were granted it out of the kindness of the english.

Let's look at Spain and Catalonia... Spain now holds a political prisoner for allowing a referendum on independence.

and he's gaining public support

while spain is losing it

you saw the police switching sides to the catalans during the first batch of riots

in case of such a dire threat

the army and police don't comply either

I saw police from Catalonia trying to stop violence, the Spanish police trying to beat everyone down.

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because of the german bankers

@franti that isn't my mindset. The US was founded for any by domestic terrorists. We have a natural extreme skepticism of government power.

hence why I say guns are culture

do you think catalonia wouldn't be free if they were armed?

and gun freedom is culture

muh catalonian anarchism worked

freedom is freedom

"You can't handle my freedoms!"

catalonia would look like the PKK if they just started shooting things up instead of holding a referendum

if your culture doesn't value freedom then I don't know what to tell you