Message from @radeon

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2018-03-26 18:57:21 UTC  

i didnt

2018-03-26 18:57:32 UTC  

CDU and SPD are hemorhaging seats in both federal and state government positions

2018-03-26 18:57:41 UTC  

And we go back to the same point....

2018-03-26 18:57:51 UTC  

if your freedoms can be taken from you effortlessly you don't have them. they are meaningless words on paper.

2018-03-26 18:58:04 UTC  

Our government isn't Merkel

2018-03-26 18:58:11 UTC  

there's hundreds of people

2018-03-26 18:58:12 UTC  

i was using merkel as an example

2018-03-26 18:58:19 UTC  

who have to act consciously and conspiratorially

2018-03-26 18:58:29 UTC  

for even the remotest erosion to our systems to happen

2018-03-26 18:58:43 UTC  

The only loophole of oppression they have is the EU

2018-03-26 18:58:46 UTC  

my point is you have no idea what might happen in the future, which is the point of having a citizenry-backed constitution.

2018-03-26 18:58:51 UTC  

as it supercedes many aspects of a country's legal system

2018-03-26 18:58:57 UTC  

and their actions in the EU

2018-03-26 18:59:01 UTC  

are causing them to lose support

2018-03-26 18:59:09 UTC  

hence why the AFD has become the second strongest party

2018-03-26 18:59:24 UTC  

i'll give you a more plausible example, its 2040, greece decides to cecede from the EU and the EU army invades. what now?

2018-03-26 18:59:47 UTC  

we unelect whatever party approved this and put an anti EU party in power

2018-03-26 18:59:56 UTC  

lol

2018-03-26 18:59:59 UTC  

this austism is

2018-03-26 19:00:02 UTC  

or we continue to elect the party that thought it was a good idea because we thought it was a good idea

2018-03-26 19:00:20 UTC  

its fairly obvious that a totally armed people are impossible to oppress without killing everyone which would defeat the purpose of occupying a territory.

2018-03-26 19:00:38 UTC  

other than resources

2018-03-26 19:00:49 UTC  

India and all the colonies got their independence just fine without toting guns

2018-03-26 19:01:01 UTC  

because it was given to them, dumbass.

2018-03-26 19:01:04 UTC  

That is because Britain isn't a dictatorship

2018-03-26 19:01:24 UTC  

I just find this idea of voting away the tyranny to absurd

2018-03-26 19:01:29 UTC  

Britain isn't a dictatorship yes

2018-03-26 19:01:34 UTC  

@Ϻ14ᛟ it wasn't , now I'm not so sure

2018-03-26 19:01:35 UTC  

but it didn't exactly get given to themn

2018-03-26 19:01:36 UTC  

there was nothing stopping the british from continuing to oppress the indians, they stopped for diplomatic reasons.

2018-03-26 19:01:40 UTC  

You know Gandhi said if it were any other nation in control of India they would have already put a bullet in his head for rallying against him

2018-03-26 19:02:03 UTC  

But British people were not like that, despite occupying the land

2018-03-26 19:02:16 UTC  

my point isn't that Britain was tyrannical

2018-03-26 19:02:16 UTC  

Britain isn't a dictatorship ~~yes~~ yet

2018-03-26 19:02:18 UTC  

because liberalism

2018-03-26 19:02:27 UTC  

@radeon It will never happen to us is the mindset wich gets you into the siad situation in the first place

2018-03-26 19:02:30 UTC  

my point is that there are other ways of achieving freedom than guns or elections

2018-03-26 19:02:40 UTC  

it's both wrong to state elections or guns are foolproof

2018-03-26 19:02:46 UTC  

you had to find a very niche case in which a country intentionally surrendered control

2018-03-26 19:03:11 UTC  

india didn't win their independence, they were granted it out of the kindness of the english.

2018-03-26 19:03:28 UTC  

Let's look at Spain and Catalonia... Spain now holds a political prisoner for allowing a referendum on independence.