Message from @redd

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2018-04-03 01:41:42 UTC  

LMAO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/430542381037912064/Screenshot_20180402-214125_Twitter.jpg

2018-04-03 01:41:43 UTC  

No, I asked for a definition of rights

2018-04-03 01:42:19 UTC  

Right to liberty? Explain prisons
Right to freedom of expression... don't even have to explain how this isn't a right at all

2018-04-03 01:42:41 UTC  

Yes, those are examples of rights

2018-04-03 01:42:50 UTC  

I don't think you understand how rights work

2018-04-03 01:42:52 UTC  

@Fitzydog a right is a thing that is a legal requirement of a person until the government or twitter thinks otherwise

2018-04-03 01:43:06 UTC  

@redd wrongo, buckaroo

2018-04-03 01:43:06 UTC  

@radeon
that's not exactly hard to conclude

2018-04-03 01:43:07 UTC  

Yeah, you go to prison because you fucked yourself to the point where you don't deserve them anymore

2018-04-03 01:43:16 UTC  

explain prison? because those people infringed on the rights of others

2018-04-03 01:43:18 UTC  

@Werlf I agree

2018-04-03 01:43:18 UTC  

People go to jail because they have forfeited their ***legal*** rights by committing a crime.

2018-04-03 01:43:21 UTC  

You literally go below the bare minimum society expects

2018-04-03 01:43:28 UTC  

The same dude who said that it would be right to invade sweden, is now saying that

2018-04-03 01:43:36 UTC  

a right is not a legal requirement @redd

2018-04-03 01:43:53 UTC  

well explain it for the autist, please

2018-04-03 01:44:02 UTC  

it is basically that

2018-04-03 01:44:04 UTC  

freedom to religion is a right. That doesnt legally require you to do it

2018-04-03 01:44:34 UTC  

Freedom of religion is a part of freedom of expression.

2018-04-03 01:44:43 UTC  

A right is something abstract that you are willing to defend.

2018-04-03 01:44:48 UTC  

I didn't say you legally had to use the right to your advantage, but people do it nonetheless

2018-04-03 01:45:05 UTC  

Rights are abstract yes

2018-04-03 01:45:36 UTC  

In the strictest sense, rights are arbitrary and not concrete, but the point of their existence is to set hard borders as to what the state can and cannot legislate on

2018-04-03 01:45:36 UTC  

we can skip the whole 'Where do muh rights come from?" nonsense though. dumb question lol

2018-04-03 01:45:38 UTC  

@radeon that poses a problem - sometimes a religion instructs you to do things that would violate the law (e.g. FGM)

2018-04-03 01:45:42 UTC  

classical liberals base rights on the moral principles of natural law

2018-04-03 01:46:04 UTC  

But you can create rights for anything in reality

2018-04-03 01:46:07 UTC  

THIS

2018-04-03 01:46:09 UTC  

right not to be offensive

2018-04-03 01:46:17 UTC  

offended even

2018-04-03 01:46:20 UTC  

THIS DEBATE STUFF IS WHAT THIS DISCORD IS FOR

2018-04-03 01:46:26 UTC  

Now you're blurring the difinition of 'right'

2018-04-03 01:46:39 UTC  

Yes it does, another reason to stop religions influence on culture. Nevertheless FGM is clearly a violation of a person's human rights which Trump's any right to religion

2018-04-03 01:46:47 UTC  

well the definition is abstract and can be applied in many ways, and is applied in many ways

2018-04-03 01:46:50 UTC  

Human rights are always first before legal ones

2018-04-03 01:46:56 UTC  

Trump

2018-04-03 01:47:03 UTC  

@radeon not making a cake for a fag should be allowed tho

2018-04-03 01:47:11 UTC  

WHAT THE

2018-04-03 01:47:11 UTC  

lmao

2018-04-03 01:47:14 UTC  

BRAIN COMON

2018-04-03 01:47:18 UTC  

Condolesa Rice. See? I can do it too. @Werlf