Message from @redd

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2018-04-03 01:44:02 UTC  

it is basically that

2018-04-03 01:44:04 UTC  

freedom to religion is a right. That doesnt legally require you to do it

2018-04-03 01:44:34 UTC  

Freedom of religion is a part of freedom of expression.

2018-04-03 01:44:43 UTC  

A right is something abstract that you are willing to defend.

2018-04-03 01:44:48 UTC  

I didn't say you legally had to use the right to your advantage, but people do it nonetheless

2018-04-03 01:45:05 UTC  

Rights are abstract yes

2018-04-03 01:45:36 UTC  

In the strictest sense, rights are arbitrary and not concrete, but the point of their existence is to set hard borders as to what the state can and cannot legislate on

2018-04-03 01:45:36 UTC  

we can skip the whole 'Where do muh rights come from?" nonsense though. dumb question lol

2018-04-03 01:45:38 UTC  

@radeon that poses a problem - sometimes a religion instructs you to do things that would violate the law (e.g. FGM)

2018-04-03 01:45:42 UTC  

classical liberals base rights on the moral principles of natural law

2018-04-03 01:46:04 UTC  

But you can create rights for anything in reality

2018-04-03 01:46:07 UTC  

THIS

2018-04-03 01:46:09 UTC  

right not to be offensive

2018-04-03 01:46:17 UTC  

offended even

2018-04-03 01:46:20 UTC  

THIS DEBATE STUFF IS WHAT THIS DISCORD IS FOR

2018-04-03 01:46:26 UTC  

Now you're blurring the difinition of 'right'

2018-04-03 01:46:39 UTC  

Yes it does, another reason to stop religions influence on culture. Nevertheless FGM is clearly a violation of a person's human rights which Trump's any right to religion

2018-04-03 01:46:47 UTC  

well the definition is abstract and can be applied in many ways, and is applied in many ways

2018-04-03 01:46:50 UTC  

Human rights are always first before legal ones

2018-04-03 01:46:56 UTC  

Trump

2018-04-03 01:47:03 UTC  

@radeon not making a cake for a fag should be allowed tho

2018-04-03 01:47:11 UTC  

WHAT THE

2018-04-03 01:47:11 UTC  

lmao

2018-04-03 01:47:14 UTC  

BRAIN COMON

2018-04-03 01:47:18 UTC  

Condolesa Rice. See? I can do it too. @Werlf

2018-04-03 01:47:28 UTC  

Like can you explain to me the right to education?

2018-04-03 01:47:30 UTC  

what does that mean?

2018-04-03 01:47:38 UTC  

idk, educate me

2018-04-03 01:47:38 UTC  
2018-04-03 01:47:44 UTC  

You don't have a right to education, that's stupid

2018-04-03 01:47:52 UTC  

@redd I'm a gay furry so

2018-04-03 01:47:55 UTC  

i agree that you don't but in law we do

2018-04-03 01:47:55 UTC  

@radeon wut r rights

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2018-04-03 01:48:02 UTC  

LMFAO

2018-04-03 01:48:14 UTC  

accurate, not shopped

2018-04-03 01:48:16 UTC  

Things granted to you by the state are privleges.

2018-04-03 01:48:22 UTC  

@someone think of the children

2018-04-03 01:48:25 UTC  

I'll gladly debate on gay rights if you like

2018-04-03 01:48:49 UTC  

@radeon sure

2018-04-03 01:48:55 UTC  

@Fitzydog i agree and i've said the same things before

2018-04-03 01:49:01 UTC  

but legally they are classed as rights