If you're not the solely responsibile person for defending yourself, then you don't have ownership over yourself. Which means you are no better than property.

@Fitzydog
It's not because it is to me, that it is a natural right.

It's not because I have the right to suck people's blood the this is an actual right

You might have seen a few hot takes but I doubt you've been called literally just as bad as timothy McVeigh because you disagree that rump should be held responsible for wars he has actively protested simply because some soldiers in those wars like Trump, this actually happened

@Fulcrum010 Natural rights are a complicated thing, and I'm trying to help redefine it for the plebs who disregard it because 'muh atheism'

@Fitzydog Okay so you understand that Hobbes argued that the role of the government is to protect one individual from another and classical liberals have time and time accepted that notion.

@Fitzydog
You are not doing a good job

I'm trying to start a dialog, and you're just flinging shit

Me? Oks....

Well, except these wife beating newbs

@Fulcrum010 he’s the male chole

I am genuinely open to suggestions, go ahead and make me understand how wanting a classical liberal notion is a communism. @Fitzydog

Because you aren’t serving the state @ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar)

@ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar) I think you misunderstood what I said

wtf 😂

@Deleted User
I was actually serious, but if he thinks I was flinging shit, I won't say anything else

@Fulcrum010 I apologize

@Deleted User Who is not? It is instrumental to serve the state to validate its protection.

@Fulcrum010 I've talked to people who immediately laugh at the notion of 'natural rights' because it's premised upon the concept of 'higher power'.

It's ok

Is everyone british here

It may be premised in such but it is a humanist premise as well which I despite being an anti theist can thoroughly agree with.

No

@Deleted User I am an Indian.

Some of us have guns

No way virat kohli

@ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar) poo in loo?

Yep.

Sachin Tendulkar

Lol.

I am not much fan of cricket though.

>Indian
>has Germanic name

I am Pakistani and part pashtun

Wot

gtfo

lol

Ah nice to meet you

Likewise man

I am part English and part God

Death to the British colonial masters!

Lol

@Deleted User Whoa, hey now