I think maybe he was really Cyrus the Great

oh it does, but beyond if that matter what matters what now, is can the truth of the matter effect me today.

This is where we get the first form of human rights from by the way

@flyingfoxel It doesn't matter to me if he was a real guy. I'm more concerned about the lasting impact of the Christian tradition across the west for the last 2000 years

Many of these questions are answered in the book "The Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine. I think everyone here would benefit if they read it

@Fitzydog then your just as much of an athiest i am

The Cyrus cylinder

i am by no means anti thiest.

@Deleted User quite frankly noone cares mate.

One of the only historical figures in the Bible.

@flyingfoxel I may not believe in a higher power, but I greatly respect what Catholicism has done to Europe

TL;DR Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, @Deleted User

@Fitzydog that doesn't make someone a theist, respecting the culture developed by Christians is important, i just don't like the extras that come with it, or the heavy indoctrination happening in my country of it.

@Fitzydog hooty was dropped as a child

@flyingfoxel Then educate your fellow man so that they can make a better choice

so was my brother didn't make him autistic

just showing you where this stuff came from.

@Deleted User derp, yeah no shit

few people know this

people who gave two shits allready read all that crap and the rest of the world doesn't care

@Deleted User You were too busy shitposting once again to read any of my comments

He's desperate for attention.

DKO < that stand for anything?

nvm

I read your comments, I'm telling you Zoroaster was the real Jesus.

is yer name used dat right click power

I shortened it because one of the fag mods was "Dan..." and people would tag me by mistake.

@Deleted User Zoroaster predates jesus quite a bit, and wasn't part of a civil war. Get your dates straight

he wasn't the figure of jesus is both older then the zoos and from a differnt vien of thought

```The other day a preacher came onto the campus of my school and was filming a series where students could openly debate him. Having about 45 minutes to kill, I figured I would just sit back and watch the events unfold. Normally I wouldn't say a word and just listen. I'm the type of person who doesn't like a lot of attention on me in large groups, but once you get to know me, a blast to hang out with. So I did my normal thing and just sat there. After about 5 minutes of not one of the 60+ students stepping up to break the ice, I finally said Fuck It and started off the debate. Now it's important to know I an atheist (probably more anti-theist, but I respect people's rights to believe what they want). The preacher didn't know what hit him. Being in Texas, a Christian super giant state, I don't think he was expecting some of the questions I asked him, and my rebuttals to his points. I was clearly ahead in the argument. Not only was I winning the debate, but I was winning the crowd. Whenever I would make a point, people would clap, I started putting humor into it, and everyone laughed. I had the people on my side, and where as normally all this attention would make me sink back, it empowered me. Sadly though my next class was about to start, so I had to leave the debate early. I politely gave the man a hand shake and said, "I have class now, but this a great deal of fun sir", but as I walked away, a number of people asked me my name and if they could get my number so we could meet up later because they wanted to talk to me about atheism and just be able to pick my brain. I met some really cool people and it looks like I formed an entire new circle of friends because I said fuck the shyness and was not afraid to debate my world view to this preacher in front of a crows of 60+ (Around 90 by the time I left).```

Jesus was to be his son

like the 2nd coming

his figure comes from very old jewish predictions then, made whole cloth from surrounding stories of savouirs, infact in particular 3 men

@Reaps then everyone clapped? Oh, it's already right in there.

which is why you have the Zoroastrian astrologers, wise men, Magi visiting his birth and such.

2 of which performed "miracles" 1 of which dies via Romes justice system

they have scriptures as well

perhaps some were stolen when Alexander the great came and killed their priests & burned their scrolls in the persian fires

@Reaps you realize that sensation means you're a natural speaker, stop wasting the talent start your own cult XD that or you were making sence,

if thats a meme it went over my head