@flyingfoxel The Old testement is nothing more than a collection of books that people in the past thought were really important. The New Testament is about resolving an ongoing civil war in Judaism, and prostelizing Hellesntic Judaism to the Greeks and Romans, with a focal point on Jesus as a superhero who was executed unjustly.

The important part is that its IMPORTANT

yes with his divinity added in after the fact

It all starts with the first prophet, Zarathustra which everyone seems to ignore.

It has sticking power,

You know how *new* of a concept the idea of 'unjust killing' was at that time?

yes but how can it effect my life today beyond interacting with it's believers

it wasn't new

Except for the Greeks, it was pretty damn progressive

"People always had the same moral values as us now, in the west."

HERE O ISRAEL

jews had the concept 200 years before christ and the antient celts also had the concept

OUR LORD THY GOD IS AHAD

ONE

The OG Jesus

@flyingfoxel Thus the civil war

Go shave your pubes.

lol

i have no pubes

side effect of rogain >.> oddly enough

Was Jesus an actual person, and did he perform miracles?

The question should be, does it matter?

I think maybe he was really Cyrus the Great

oh it does, but beyond if that matter what matters what now, is can the truth of the matter effect me today.

This is where we get the first form of human rights from by the way

@flyingfoxel It doesn't matter to me if he was a real guy. I'm more concerned about the lasting impact of the Christian tradition across the west for the last 2000 years

Many of these questions are answered in the book "The Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine. I think everyone here would benefit if they read it

@Fitzydog then your just as much of an athiest i am

The Cyrus cylinder

i am by no means anti thiest.

@Deleted User quite frankly noone cares mate.

One of the only historical figures in the Bible.

@flyingfoxel I may not believe in a higher power, but I greatly respect what Catholicism has done to Europe

TL;DR Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, @Deleted User

@Fitzydog that doesn't make someone a theist, respecting the culture developed by Christians is important, i just don't like the extras that come with it, or the heavy indoctrination happening in my country of it.

@Fitzydog hooty was dropped as a child

@flyingfoxel Then educate your fellow man so that they can make a better choice

so was my brother didn't make him autistic

just showing you where this stuff came from.

@Deleted User derp, yeah no shit

few people know this

people who gave two shits allready read all that crap and the rest of the world doesn't care