Message from @spaggot

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2018-04-08 18:17:17 UTC  

Is copypasta?

2018-04-08 18:17:25 UTC  

Fidesz also made two key changes. First is communication style: prior to 2010, discussing politics was largely in a civil manner, focused around expert opinions and all around a more or less intellectual process. Fidesz realized they don't need to do that, they don't need the educated 15%'s majority support if they can rile up the hoi polloi. And they did, introduced record lows in the quality of public discourse.

Accusing Jobbik chairman Vona of being gay not only in pro-gov't tabloids (that Fidesz oligarchs brought to existence and sustain on public funds to a tune of them receiving 80-90% of ad revenue from the state), but in snide comments of cabinet members wasn't even a lowlight, just 1 of dozens and hundreds of such occurrences over the years.

The other was Fidesz clearly dividing the population into those who are favored and those who aren't. The bottom third of the population gets it very rough by them, but they can't do anything about it and are so destitute, their vote can be (figuratively) bought for next to nothing. Videos of pensioners thanking OrbΓ‘n for their €35 meal voucher gift before Christmas are a sight to behold, and at election time, Fidesz candidates giving away sacks of potatoes or some pasta and oil are not uncommon.

The lower middle class still isn't the favorite of theirs, but they are largely allowed to keep themselves afloat the same way they've been doing until now. So still no reason for them to feel alienated and can be convinced by the fear campaigns about migrants coming to eat their babies alive. They also loved the extremely ineffective workfare program which the traditional unemployment benefits got converted into. They get to feel superior or vindicated, because now the "lazy poor people" have to work as well, not only them.

2018-04-08 18:17:53 UTC  

The real winners of Fidesz government is the upper middle class, which in Hungary sadly means people between the ~65th and ~90th earning percentile. Tax breaks, incentives for families and having more children, etc. They got the funds they've taken away from the poor. And since these people are people who have very localized micro-influence and respect, even poorer people look up to their growing prosperity as if it were their own. But they can't, social mobility is extremely low in the country.

All in all, this is what you get in an immature democracy. The Western values of respect for each other, revering an equal playing field for all, etc. didn't form in people organically, but they were fine with them until money ran out. Then it did and their true nature -selfishness out of necessity- came out and got strategically amlified by OrbΓ‘n and Co.

2018-04-08 18:18:11 UTC  

@Deleted User Just a take from a Hungarian living in Hungary

2018-04-08 18:18:20 UTC  

Wanted to share it

2018-04-08 18:19:12 UTC  

Ah

2018-04-08 18:29:43 UTC  

Since when did daddy Peterson have a beard

2018-04-08 18:45:27 UTC  

He's had one one and off for years now

I like he's like me, sometimes he does. Sometimes not

I wouldn't read into it

2018-04-08 18:46:18 UTC  

He’s had it for a while

2018-04-08 18:46:49 UTC  

<:gay:382982146249326612>

You have to be careful reading into something like that

atm I have beard

but I'm starting to get fed up of it

not yet tho

but also I'm single, I'm widower

your missus might like clean shave or she might like a beard

I'd guess that he's travelling around so much he can't be assed to shave

Doing TV and interviews and travelling and being away from home is hard on anyone

2018-04-08 19:03:51 UTC  

Yeah that makes sense

I've seen a couple of interviews from JBP last couple of weeks and he needs a rest

he probably won't

@here I try to make this a positive thing but today is the 10th year Aniversary of my Mother's death. So if you are putting off calling someone you care about today's the day

2018-04-08 20:39:49 UTC  

Gotta love it when you try to argue with Staunch Dems about the national debt

2018-04-08 20:43:17 UTC  

with no solutions because you can just spend out the ass without taking in more money

2018-04-08 20:43:30 UTC  

or two half solutions

2018-04-08 20:43:39 UTC  

1. PrinT mORE mOENEY

2018-04-08 20:43:45 UTC  

2. Tax the rich more

2018-04-08 20:43:49 UTC  

Whats capital flight

2018-04-08 21:04:26 UTC  

Any opinion about the gas attacks in syria again?

2018-04-08 21:04:36 UTC  

its fucked

2018-04-08 21:06:45 UTC  

Sargon made a video about the previous "gas attack".

2018-04-08 21:18:05 UTC  

Could be fake

2018-04-08 21:19:22 UTC  

A) Seems odd, Assad seems to be winning this prety handily by now, and Trump already slapped him around a little last year regarding stuff like this

2018-04-08 21:20:15 UTC  

B) on the flipside, the Russians *love* to test Presidents like this to see where they'll draw the line, so it also wouldn't be surprising if ol' Putey just went 'I think it great idea if you use gas naow))))))'

2018-04-08 21:20:15 UTC  

who the hell knows

2018-04-08 21:20:47 UTC  
2018-04-08 21:21:05 UTC  

But this is also Russia Today, what a coinkidink

2018-04-08 21:21:10 UTC  

Then again, thats from the russian propaganda channel

2018-04-08 21:21:14 UTC  

bing