Message from @versterven

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2018-04-17 13:32:44 UTC  

why is freedom of speech a right

2018-04-17 13:32:48 UTC  

Only rights that we agree on as a society

2018-04-17 13:33:11 UTC  

Cuz that how it was decided, and for some very good reasons

2018-04-17 13:33:18 UTC  

@Baraban why are you bothering?

2018-04-17 13:33:33 UTC  

Don't know

2018-04-17 13:33:55 UTC  

so what if, as a society, we were to agree that workplace democracy for example is a right

2018-04-17 13:34:14 UTC  

You are not born with that

2018-04-17 13:34:28 UTC  

so do you believe in private property rights

2018-04-17 13:34:33 UTC  

Rights aren't given to you by the government

2018-04-17 13:34:38 UTC  

Yeah

2018-04-17 13:34:40 UTC  

why

2018-04-17 13:34:46 UTC  

you aren't born with private property rights

2018-04-17 13:34:50 UTC  

they are a legal construct

2018-04-17 13:34:50 UTC  

who giv3es rights then?

2018-04-17 13:35:08 UTC  

Of course I'm born with property rights

2018-04-17 13:35:12 UTC  

no you aren't

2018-04-17 13:35:24 UTC  

sup muh niggers

2018-04-17 13:35:29 UTC  

I'm not born with property, but I'm born with propery rights

2018-04-17 13:35:38 UTC  

we all on da Trump Train?

2018-04-17 13:35:39 UTC  

what does that even mean

2018-04-17 13:35:47 UTC  

private property rights are a legal construct

2018-04-17 13:35:49 UTC  

wtf i rremember you

2018-04-17 13:35:58 UTC  

yo mamas ass be a legal construct, hoe

2018-04-17 13:36:02 UTC  

BOMILCAR!

2018-04-17 13:36:34 UTC  

if rights arent given out by government then where do they come from?

2018-04-17 13:36:51 UTC  

yo... MAMA!

2018-04-17 13:36:53 UTC  

BOMILCAR!

2018-04-17 13:36:59 UTC  

good one

2018-04-17 13:37:08 UTC  

ill let myself out.... 😭

2018-04-17 13:37:36 UTC  

Property rights aren't just legal construct, it's the right to own property. I don't need the government to grant me that. I can be born on an empty island, find a piece of wood and call it my own

2018-04-17 13:37:44 UTC  

Those are property rights

2018-04-17 13:37:58 UTC  

Property rights also include self ownership

2018-04-17 13:38:01 UTC  

you can call it whatever you like

2018-04-17 13:38:02 UTC  

yeah but in that senario you are the governement

2018-04-17 13:38:07 UTC  

Meaning ownership of my own body

2018-04-17 13:38:25 UTC  

No

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/435796176608952320/unknown.png

2018-04-17 13:38:28 UTC  

rights are given out and enforced by people

2018-04-17 13:38:54 UTC  

In that sceniario there's no government, that why I gave it as an example

2018-04-17 13:39:01 UTC  

@Baraban i think its only technically your private property if its recognised as such by a state, otherwise someone more powerful could always just come and it take it from yo ass

2018-04-17 13:39:17 UTC  

exactly

2018-04-17 13:39:29 UTC  

rights dont just come out of no where