Message from @Muffin Man

Discord ID: 435796080421240852


2018-04-17 13:34:50 UTC  

who giv3es rights then?

2018-04-17 13:35:08 UTC  

Of course I'm born with property rights

2018-04-17 13:35:12 UTC  

no you aren't

2018-04-17 13:35:24 UTC  

sup muh niggers

2018-04-17 13:35:29 UTC  

I'm not born with property, but I'm born with propery rights

2018-04-17 13:35:38 UTC  

we all on da Trump Train?

2018-04-17 13:35:39 UTC  

what does that even mean

2018-04-17 13:35:47 UTC  

private property rights are a legal construct

2018-04-17 13:35:49 UTC  

wtf i rremember you

2018-04-17 13:35:58 UTC  

yo mamas ass be a legal construct, hoe

2018-04-17 13:36:02 UTC  

BOMILCAR!

2018-04-17 13:36:34 UTC  

if rights arent given out by government then where do they come from?

2018-04-17 13:36:51 UTC  

yo... MAMA!

2018-04-17 13:36:53 UTC  

BOMILCAR!

2018-04-17 13:36:59 UTC  

good one

2018-04-17 13:37:08 UTC  

ill let myself out.... 😭

2018-04-17 13:37:36 UTC  

Property rights aren't just legal construct, it's the right to own property. I don't need the government to grant me that. I can be born on an empty island, find a piece of wood and call it my own

2018-04-17 13:37:44 UTC  

Those are property rights

2018-04-17 13:37:58 UTC  

Property rights also include self ownership

2018-04-17 13:38:01 UTC  

you can call it whatever you like

2018-04-17 13:38:02 UTC  

yeah but in that senario you are the governement

2018-04-17 13:38:07 UTC  

Meaning ownership of my own body

2018-04-17 13:38:25 UTC  

No

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2018-04-17 13:38:28 UTC  

rights are given out and enforced by people

2018-04-17 13:38:54 UTC  

In that sceniario there's no government, that why I gave it as an example

2018-04-17 13:39:01 UTC  

@Baraban i think its only technically your private property if its recognised as such by a state, otherwise someone more powerful could always just come and it take it from yo ass

2018-04-17 13:39:17 UTC  

exactly

2018-04-17 13:39:29 UTC  

rights dont just come out of no where

2018-04-17 13:39:34 UTC  

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2018-04-17 13:39:36 UTC  

and they need to be backed by something

2018-04-17 13:39:44 UTC  

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2018-04-17 13:39:47 UTC  

something being your property just means that you excercise power over it

2018-04-17 13:39:59 UTC  

you have no "right" to property, you only either have power over something or you do not

2018-04-17 13:40:24 UTC  

usually, this power is upheld by legal rights, not some sort of weird notion of natural rights that transcends law

2018-04-17 13:40:43 UTC  

Rights are there out nowhere, governments only exist to protect them, not grant them

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2018-04-17 13:41:09 UTC  

i think you dont have that right

2018-04-17 13:41:44 UTC  

governemts grant and protect rights

2018-04-17 13:41:54 UTC  

You mean you think I SHOULD'NT have that right, because right now I do have it

2018-04-17 13:41:57 UTC  

i think rights like freedom of speech are differnt to private property rights

2018-04-17 13:42:00 UTC  

thats why rights arent the same everywhere

2018-04-17 13:42:05 UTC  

No government don't grant rights