Message from @Baraban
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you tried to argue if something exists without government it that of nature
im telling you that's not correct
So are property rights
They are independent of the government
a natural right has to be independent. Property is not.
it is
it is
That's why I said in a world with no government
why do you think life liberty and property was adapted to life liberty and pursuit of happiness
I get you've read Lockes wiki entry
but it's not what is meant
I don't know what that is
you are your own property, and things that are an extension of yourself for the benefit of your survival is also your property.
you dont know who John Locke is
?
that is natural
No
you're arguing about natural rights and you dont know who john locke is?
....
lol, what an argument
you mean you can work things out for yourself?
shocking
I find it shocking that you dont know who he is, yes
I get "insperations" from some poeple but yeah
and you're talking about natural rights
he did not invent natural rights
he didnt
Like I said the concept just make sense
is he the gatekeeper?
We need some standart thay we all agree to use when interacting with other people
But when we talk about property as a natural right, you're talking about the lockean natural rights
In order to leave in freedom and piece at the same time
Yeah I just got that from my head
that doesnt mean people cant think about these things on their own Owl
I highly doubt you've come up with this yourself. I'm certain somoene had said it and you've all just agreed
it's just a guy that thought these same things, and I'm sure he wasnt the first
lol
I know who he is
I'm just saying it's not exactly a hard concept
I don't think you can call yourself a classical liberal if you dont know who John Locke is