Message from @Kalisme

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2018-04-22 18:27:25 UTC  

@M4Gunner So this is your channel?
Also, you don't have to be a Marxist to be a surrealist... there is reasons why people were drawn to it, but most of there work was shit.

2018-04-22 18:27:58 UTC  

Orwell said this. he doesnt like dali

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/437680984293638144/2018-04-22_11_26_17-George_Orwell_Reviews_Salvador_Dalis_Autobiography___Dali_is_a_Good_Draughtsman.png

2018-04-22 18:28:19 UTC  

the soundcloud channel is mine ya

2018-04-22 18:28:58 UTC  

The Australian surrelist pointed out Dali was a lazt oil painter... I love that... sick burn.

2018-04-22 18:29:06 UTC  

*lazy

2018-04-22 18:29:06 UTC  

he is so not

2018-04-22 18:29:25 UTC  

dali achieved complete technical mastery through godbillions of hours of hard work

2018-04-22 18:29:25 UTC  

In the concept of using oil, yeah, he was.

2018-04-22 18:30:37 UTC  

i wanna see his argument. it may not be a traditional oil style, but it looks exactly how he wanted it in most cases im sure

2018-04-22 18:30:45 UTC  

He never took advantage of the medium and he used it like a pencil, tempora or other medium which didn't have the slow drying quality of oil.

2018-04-22 18:30:46 UTC  

thats what orwell is saying

2018-04-22 18:31:00 UTC  

I can make stickfigures exactly how I imagine

2018-04-22 18:31:10 UTC  

or how I want

2018-04-22 18:31:11 UTC  

thats prescriptivist as fucc

2018-04-22 18:31:41 UTC  

Dali was a clean surrealist. He came up with a concept and completed the work. Surrealism was about play.

2018-04-22 18:31:55 UTC  

his work is plenty playful

2018-04-22 18:32:19 UTC  

its much more palateable than many other surrealist artists who discredited him

2018-04-22 18:32:40 UTC  

iirc they were also annoyed he wouldnt join them in their various political leanings

2018-04-22 18:32:53 UTC  

:/

2018-04-22 18:33:14 UTC  

Surrealism wasn't political until the second maniphesto.

2018-04-22 18:33:24 UTC  

Which a lot rejected.

2018-04-22 18:33:30 UTC  

Why would an artist prescribe to an opinion rather than his own?

2018-04-22 18:34:32 UTC  

what's going on?

2018-04-22 18:34:40 UTC  

Breton said some s†††

2018-04-22 18:34:53 UTC  

but his work just aint as good

2018-04-22 18:35:21 UTC  

Breton was interesting, but the surrealist "movement" was like "grundge"... it was there before people tried to name it.

2018-04-22 18:35:45 UTC  

Ernst is a much better example, but he came from Dadaist stock.

2018-04-22 18:37:22 UTC  

I dont like the actual dadaist works that much because its just trolling

2018-04-22 18:37:52 UTC  

its funny and interesting but buying into it was just getting yourself trolled

2018-04-22 18:38:11 UTC  

That's what I liked about Dadaism.

2018-04-22 18:38:25 UTC  

yeah but would you pay money for a signed toilet

2018-04-22 18:38:48 UTC  

You mean post modernism?

2018-04-22 18:39:00 UTC  

Du-shamp or whatever?

2018-04-22 18:39:10 UTC  

pretty sure the r. mutt toilet was squarely in the realm of dadaists

2018-04-22 18:39:27 UTC  

Marcel Duchamp i think

2018-04-22 18:40:31 UTC  

It's a bit more complicated than that, but yeah, it was inspired by the dadaist concepts. Like most things, the prelude to trolling and shitposting extended the liberties we take for granted.

2018-04-22 18:44:47 UTC  

gotta have some wierd games too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp0amfdxgbU

2018-04-22 18:46:23 UTC  

as far as local music goes most of the hard/abstract/electronics/noise scene is like aggressively political anarchist gendergays, so im kinda over it

2018-04-22 18:47:12 UTC  

i just feel like if i go to a show i cant talk how i normally would, although thats turning into everywhere lately

2018-04-22 18:48:34 UTC  

going to shows used to be about drinking beer and talking s†††