Message from @banestrum

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2018-04-27 18:21:45 UTC  

Look at how disgruntled this person sounds about simply letting the kid go home

2018-04-27 18:21:53 UTC  

It's their kid

2018-04-27 18:21:59 UTC  

For the love of God

2018-04-27 18:22:00 UTC  

and how he wants them guarded by the police so they can't leave the country to go to another hostpital

2018-04-27 18:22:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/439491454835097610/Screenshot_360.png

2018-04-27 18:22:08 UTC  

It's not government property

2018-04-27 18:22:19 UTC  

Are you fucking retarded?

2018-04-27 18:22:31 UTC  

@franti
Oh, this guy lol

2018-04-27 18:23:58 UTC  

What is the government's justification for doing that?

2018-04-27 18:24:29 UTC  

I really cannot see one

2018-04-27 18:24:37 UTC  

I'm just entirely baffled as to what basis they claim to have for essentially repossessing a child they said was not worth saving.

2018-04-27 18:24:45 UTC  

They have no official statement on the matter?

2018-04-27 18:25:07 UTC  

This seems like such a massive public relations failure that they'd HAVE to have something.

2018-04-27 18:25:08 UTC  

The British government went insane

2018-04-27 18:25:14 UTC  

Completely insane

2018-04-27 18:25:14 UTC  

Apart from the NHS being upset they spent taxmoney keeping the kid alive for a year and now the parents want to go elsewhere once the hospital decided to pull the plug

2018-04-27 18:25:24 UTC  

I know that, but they've still got a few neurons to rub together

2018-04-27 18:26:14 UTC  

Reportedly it's because they actually want the kid to die because

1) the kid is braindead
2) the kid should not be allowed to live because he is suffering pain

2018-04-27 18:26:20 UTC  

Which... is an interesting combination

2018-04-27 18:26:21 UTC  

I legitimately do not believe they are just doing this with no justification, SOMEONE in the government would have said "hey, have we made a press release or something explaining our position?"

2018-04-27 18:27:02 UTC  

I get their argument about it not being cost efficient to spend state money on a lost cause, but the second one isn't something that governments usually give a shit about

2018-04-27 18:27:06 UTC  

```O’Sullivan, who is British, points out that in the UK, The NHS and the UK courts have declared that his is a life unworthy of life.```

2018-04-27 18:27:09 UTC  

Like, that's not their territory

2018-04-27 18:27:16 UTC  

I thought euthanasia was illegal, but there y'go

2018-04-27 18:28:13 UTC  

```Before the removal of the ventilator people began praying for Alfie to breathe on his own.

The physicians said he would suffocate in 15 minutes. He lasted 12 hours. At which point, the physician at Alder Hey were forced to restore ventilation and hydration.```

2018-04-27 18:28:27 UTC  

Statists are probably going to dismiss people who want to keep Alfie alive as religious kooks

2018-04-27 18:28:36 UTC  

And there certainly are plenty of people doing the whole 'it's a miracle' thing

2018-04-27 18:28:41 UTC  

But that's irrelevant anyway

2018-04-27 18:29:07 UTC  

Because the parents *should be allowed to take their kid elsewhere for treatment by another facility that is willing to provide it*

2018-04-27 18:29:29 UTC  

They're doing the complete *opposite* of child abuse and the state is still intervening

2018-04-27 18:29:29 UTC  

Yeah, that's the point where they objectively have no legal right to intervene

2018-04-27 18:30:18 UTC  

If they were serious about their argument that its not cost effective to keep him alive, have the parents reimburse the government. That'd be shitty, but still less inconsistent and absurd than what they're doing now

2018-04-27 18:30:55 UTC  

"kill the boy"

2018-04-27 18:31:00 UTC  

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2018-04-27 18:31:31 UTC  

The only arguments I'm seeing are that the kid is already dead because he's in a "semi-vegatative state"

2018-04-27 18:31:48 UTC  

But I don't see how this stacks up with "do not allow the parents to take their own child out of the hospital"

2018-04-27 18:33:32 UTC  

Yeah, all the arguments they're making are inconsistent and have completely changed over time

2018-04-27 18:33:48 UTC  

There has to be more going on with this

2018-04-27 18:34:04 UTC  

Its too stupid in too many ways to be explained solely by bureaucracy

2018-04-27 18:34:58 UTC  

That's literally the case