Message from @M4Gunner
Discord ID: 440744781207830538
Communism at its finest
It doesn't come up for me, do you read NY Times regularly?
No
pretty sure you only see that screen if your from NA
oh wow the forshadowing in this is way to fucking clear
Everytime I check my empty wallet the first thought that come to my mind is ``how come no marxism?``
lol
Some people at Ubisoft clearly care about the quality of the games. It doesn't seem like the same is true for EA
Huh
mostly the devs care about the game and the pub, mgmt, and investors f††† them every step of the way
even at EA the people doing the most of the work are passionate if not jaded
Well I don't want to pretend I know what's going on behind the scenes, but it's probably true
the hours suck too much to keep doing it if youre not
It might come down to sheer arrogance of some of the management of EA thinking they can get away with everything
Devlopers also might have stopped carring eventually
however, it also takes more than passion and i think many of the dev are trash at actually designing a game
i think everyone has a point when theyll stop caring, but it takes so long to reach for a lot of people that their work may only suffer gradually
plus, you can only be so bad at writing code
if you think that then you dont know what it's liek to be a code monkey for them @M4Gunner
you dont stick around unless you jump the ranks
Devolping gamea is a lot more than writing a code
duh
and i didnt speak on their promotion heirarchy or retention
companies have very poor retention
the people who actualy make the game dont mean shit and their opinions of what is good does not matter
that doesnt conflict with anything i said really
"mostly the devs care about the game and the pub, mgmt, and investors f††† them every step of the way"
if the devs opinion on design not taken into consideration thats design by committee IE getting throttled by mgmt/investors/pub
which part do you disagree with
the devs dont care
okay how do you know
and the ones that do are fired
your statement is as blanket as mine
not realy like i said my gripe with EA is personal maybe Ubi is differnt but i doubt it
ill admit i cant speak specifically to EA
i feel it is this way most places
Warframes devs actualy give a shit as they are the company
Ubi and EA run badly because the people who care about money dont care about the product for it's own sake
It's funny when we think this happened in the past, with Atari; management stepped in, fired all game designers; then they got together and made Activision.
I'd imagine if the publishers are any good they gonna cate at least somewhat about creative freedom. EA actually published some really good games i the past where I doubt they forced the developers from changing much. A lot more games are also realised independently now