Message from @stillgray

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2018-05-07 00:32:54 UTC  

You know what the problem is with Islam?

2018-05-07 00:33:00 UTC  

Most Muslims can't read Arabic.

2018-05-07 00:33:04 UTC  

lol

2018-05-07 00:33:08 UTC  

The orthodox, Catholics and Protestants all have different canons

2018-05-07 00:33:09 UTC  

They're just told by their Imams what is contained in the book.

2018-05-07 00:33:11 UTC  

Lol

2018-05-07 00:33:14 UTC  

I would have said pedophilia

2018-05-07 00:33:17 UTC  

And what those Imams preach isn't necessarily in the book.

2018-05-07 00:33:25 UTC  

(not that the book is any good, mind you)

2018-05-07 00:33:31 UTC  

The whole Principle of Abrogation makes a lot of things wonky.

2018-05-07 00:33:33 UTC  

@stillgray so basically they’re Catholics pre reformation ?

2018-05-07 00:33:42 UTC  

The book contradicts itself numerous times, but you're supposed to go with the latter contradiction.

2018-05-07 00:33:44 UTC  

Yeah

2018-05-07 00:33:55 UTC  

Imagine if Christians could only read the Bible if they knew Latin.

2018-05-07 00:33:59 UTC  

That's the problem Muslims have.

2018-05-07 00:33:59 UTC  

I guess, muslims are so focused in recording the book, that they take the time to analyze it and interpret it

2018-05-07 00:34:06 UTC  

And the Quran itself tells you nothing about which verses came later.

2018-05-07 00:34:11 UTC  

It's a literacy issue.

2018-05-07 00:34:18 UTC  

> Imagine if Christians could only read the Bible if they knew Latin

So yeah, before Luther translated the thing into German

2018-05-07 00:34:25 UTC  

In some countries, Muslims learn Arabic literacy.

2018-05-07 00:34:34 UTC  

Those countries, surprise surprise, produce far fewer jihadists.

2018-05-07 00:34:46 UTC  

I'm more concerned about what happened prior to the 600s AD

2018-05-07 00:34:49 UTC  

Because they actually know how to read the Hadiths and all the supplementary material.

2018-05-07 00:34:49 UTC  

Hmmm makes you wonder

2018-05-07 00:34:56 UTC  

The stuff moderate Muslims in the 12th century came up with.

2018-05-07 00:35:03 UTC  

The stuff that says "yeah, don't kill people."

2018-05-07 00:35:16 UTC  

@stillgray
oks, they produce less jihadist, but how many ultra conservative muslims they create?

2018-05-07 00:35:24 UTC  

Meanwhile Salafists just ignore all of that stuff and go straight to the bloodshed.

2018-05-07 00:35:34 UTC  

Fewer.

2018-05-07 00:35:42 UTC  

The ultraconservatives are the ones producing jihadists.

2018-05-07 00:35:55 UTC  

They're illiterate.

2018-05-07 00:36:21 UTC  

I think he means, how many LITERATE muslims are still conservative anyways

2018-05-07 00:36:27 UTC  

^

2018-05-07 00:37:19 UTC  

Probably not that many.

2018-05-07 00:37:26 UTC  

Depends on where, of course.

2018-05-07 00:37:33 UTC  

Tons of illiterate people in Pakistan

2018-05-07 00:37:37 UTC  

did i miss anything good?

2018-05-07 00:37:37 UTC  

i don't think it's only a literacy problem, even if you have literate muslims ( of course, the illiterate ones will be easier to manipulate), how many of the literates ones still believe in sharia or something close to it

2018-05-07 00:38:13 UTC  

remember that case in pakistan, where the guy got lynched because he made a blasphemy or something? it was on a university

2018-05-07 00:38:18 UTC  

IMC is the best celeb in here. He chats, and has posted 100% less scrotum than others.