Message from @Scipio Americanus
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i mean what suggests that they are anti-capitalist
So they are soc-dems
yeah but you said that social democracy is anti-capitalist
so why do you believe that the libdems are opposed to capitalism
because of free college?
why are you such a faggot @versterven ?
is it because you never got laid?
you sad, lonely incel
please don't go shoot up a school, because of your sexual frustrations
Ok.if we want to get into the history of the lib-dems they are split by lib-dems but a majority are soc-dems
they came out of the SDP
so a majority are opposed to capitalism
they merged with liberals, some call them orangebook libs
and if you look at the SDP it was ex-labour people
Roy Jenkins being the best example
would you say that tim farron, for example, is a socdem and therefore opposed to capitalism?
hmm
I'm not sure
would you agree with the characterization of countries like norway and sweden and finland as being social democracies?
nah, they just like welfare
i mean if not it seems like you're using the term in a very idiosyncratic manner
like basically more or less if we look at how the term "social democrat" has been used in the past it did refer to movements that at least had the pretense of being marxist, but over time the term has taken on the meaning of describing a political position that is not necessarily anti-capitalist, generally today we would call the modern equivalent of old school socdems democratic socialists, whereas social democracy would just refer to people who still want to maintain liberal democracy and capitalism but are relatively left leaning and advocate for a strong social safety net and public ownership of key industries and such
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I dont know if they are or not.
but
```The Nordic model (also called Nordic capitalism or Nordic social democracy) ```
``` corporatist system involving a tripartite arrangement where representatives of labor and employers negotiate wages and labor market policy mediated by the government```
most economies are mixed
Anyone has an opinion on James Allsup?
He feels suspiciously ethno-nationalist at times.
is he 'alt-right'?
meaning does he describe himself as such?