Message from @Scipio Americanus

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2018-05-08 08:08:36 UTC  

so what

2018-05-08 08:09:09 UTC  

i mean what suggests that they are anti-capitalist

2018-05-08 08:09:10 UTC  

So they are soc-dems

2018-05-08 08:09:25 UTC  

yeah but you said that social democracy is anti-capitalist

2018-05-08 08:09:42 UTC  

so why do you believe that the libdems are opposed to capitalism

2018-05-08 08:09:50 UTC  

because of free college?

2018-05-08 08:10:04 UTC  

why are you such a faggot @versterven ?

2018-05-08 08:10:10 UTC  

is it because you never got laid?

2018-05-08 08:10:19 UTC  

you sad, lonely incel

2018-05-08 08:10:41 UTC  

please don't go shoot up a school, because of your sexual frustrations

2018-05-08 08:10:59 UTC  

Ok.if we want to get into the history of the lib-dems they are split by lib-dems but a majority are soc-dems

2018-05-08 08:11:10 UTC  

they came out of the SDP

2018-05-08 08:11:17 UTC  

so a majority are opposed to capitalism

2018-05-08 08:11:42 UTC  

they merged with liberals, some call them orangebook libs

2018-05-08 08:12:17 UTC  

and if you look at the SDP it was ex-labour people

2018-05-08 08:12:45 UTC  

Roy Jenkins being the best example

2018-05-08 08:12:51 UTC  

would you say that tim farron, for example, is a socdem and therefore opposed to capitalism?

2018-05-08 08:13:03 UTC  

hmm

2018-05-08 08:13:31 UTC  

I'm not sure

2018-05-08 08:14:28 UTC  

would you agree with the characterization of countries like norway and sweden and finland as being social democracies?

2018-05-08 08:16:15 UTC  

nah, they just like welfare

2018-05-08 08:16:32 UTC  

and sweden has a cuck fetish

2018-05-08 08:16:38 UTC  

i mean if not it seems like you're using the term in a very idiosyncratic manner

2018-05-08 08:22:02 UTC  

like basically more or less if we look at how the term "social democrat" has been used in the past it did refer to movements that at least had the pretense of being marxist, but over time the term has taken on the meaning of describing a political position that is not necessarily anti-capitalist, generally today we would call the modern equivalent of old school socdems democratic socialists, whereas social democracy would just refer to people who still want to maintain liberal democracy and capitalism but are relatively left leaning and advocate for a strong social safety net and public ownership of key industries and such

2018-05-08 08:41:40 UTC  

a mosquito landed on my vape and i tried to kill it with a butterknife but it landed injured in peanut butter and drowned
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2018-05-08 08:46:57 UTC  

Internet cut off

2018-05-08 08:47:22 UTC  

I dont know if they are or not.

2018-05-08 08:47:22 UTC  

but

2018-05-08 08:47:29 UTC  

```The Nordic model (also called Nordic capitalism or Nordic social democracy) ```

2018-05-08 08:49:12 UTC  

``` corporatist system involving a tripartite arrangement where representatives of labor and employers negotiate wages and labor market policy mediated by the government```

2018-05-08 08:49:25 UTC  

most economies are mixed

2018-05-08 09:09:43 UTC  

Anyone has an opinion on James Allsup?

2018-05-08 09:32:02 UTC  

He feels suspiciously ethno-nationalist at times.

2018-05-08 09:37:22 UTC  

is he 'alt-right'?