Message from @Deleted User

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2018-06-04 23:17:47 UTC  

@Deleted User Ah! I see where the miscommunication is. To me 'capitalism' means the ability to freely trade and do business, keep your property, let the market decide, etc. To you it seems 'capitalism' means the financial industry.

2018-06-04 23:17:57 UTC  

you have to see that fascism was a reaction to modernity, not a reaction to oppressive monarchs

2018-06-04 23:18:02 UTC  

Berlin was progressive in the beginning of 20 century.

2018-06-04 23:18:05 UTC  

and to protect it from communism

2018-06-04 23:18:31 UTC  

Every ideology ever is a reaction to modernity.

2018-06-04 23:18:39 UTC  

Berlin had a popular radio station with an openly lesbian radio host.

2018-06-04 23:18:40 UTC  

Every single one.

2018-06-04 23:18:43 UTC  

Oh and now the other fuckboi is awake

2018-06-04 23:18:50 UTC  

well fuck

2018-06-04 23:18:52 UTC  

Ideologies weren't a thing prior to modernity.

2018-06-04 23:18:54 UTC  

No, capitalism puts capital first....GDP above all else

2018-06-04 23:19:05 UTC  

soon the conversation will be about the jews

2018-06-04 23:19:10 UTC  

Prior to the industrial revolution there were no ideologies.

2018-06-04 23:19:16 UTC  

and general will go to shit

2018-06-04 23:19:18 UTC  

Fascists say GDP is VERY IMPORTANT, but not as important as the Nation and People which have to be preserved

2018-06-04 23:19:22 UTC  

eg

2018-06-04 23:20:42 UTC  

thus thats why people say both Communist and Capitalist see the world as economic units (communists as economic classes, capitalists as economic units) -whereas Fascist see a nation and people as a sum of their traditions, heritage history etc

2018-06-04 23:20:49 UTC  

and economics comes second....

2018-06-04 23:20:50 UTC  

As a fan of economics, I've always hated when people fetishize GDP.

2018-06-04 23:21:25 UTC  

What if people don't want to be preserved?

2018-06-04 23:21:30 UTC  

It says nothing about the well being of citizens.

2018-06-04 23:21:47 UTC  

It was a reaction to the capitalist oligarchs....of course, capitalists and commies won that war...so consumerism, materialism won

2018-06-04 23:21:53 UTC  

traditionalism lost

2018-06-04 23:22:03 UTC  

You have to look at development of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, ... This is not a bad indicator.

2018-06-04 23:22:09 UTC  

You're putting tradition above freedom of choice @Deleted User

2018-06-04 23:22:14 UTC  

... among others.

2018-06-04 23:22:16 UTC  

So some say that "Nazis lost a war not an academic debate"

2018-06-04 23:22:38 UTC  

No, freedom of choice is a slogan, its not unbounded by laws and morals anywhere

2018-06-04 23:22:39 UTC  

It's just as dangerous as stating people's value before showing their worth or merit.

2018-06-04 23:22:42 UTC  

Youre sloganeering

2018-06-04 23:22:58 UTC  

"muh freedom"

2018-06-04 23:22:59 UTC  

You're gaslighting

2018-06-04 23:23:02 UTC  

They are not invited to debates, because the guys who tried it, failed miserably with bad outcome (to put it mildly).

2018-06-04 23:23:05 UTC  

You can't hold a serious argument

2018-06-04 23:23:10 UTC  

And you’re in lalaland

2018-06-04 23:23:17 UTC  

No, its a matter of degree

2018-06-04 23:23:21 UTC  

@Deleted User So am I right in believing your brand of fascism would never do away with money, or seize great amounts of taxes or appropriate people's property for government programs?

2018-06-04 23:23:22 UTC  

you're arguing from an extreme

2018-06-04 23:23:27 UTC  

NO one is saying end markets

2018-06-04 23:23:34 UTC  

or end ability to choose products

2018-06-04 23:23:40 UTC  

or whatever you burgers call freedom