I've always been fascinated with the difference between Nazis (neo or otherwise) and communists. As a libertarian, they both seem like the same thing to me, because they both sit opposite to me as far as respect for capitalism. I figured it was probably similar to the difference between minarchists and ancaps. Basically the same shit, but the differences are super huge in their minds because they're really closed to all the little details.

So you disagree with liberal principles regarding social issues. Do you have a problem with homosexuality, etc?

no

A key pillar to communism is ending property, thats not a part of fascism at all

huge distinction

But a fascist state can take what it pleases when it pleases, right?

No

@Mercury Nazis were nationalists, while communists want to abolish the state.

No? So no nationalizing roads or banks or railroads or anything?

The nazis, for instance, had a great respect for property and private contracts, and encouraged entrepreneurs etc.

The big deal with Nazis is stopping the global movement of capital

@Deleted User Wow so it's even closer to the minarchist/ancap divide than I even realized.

it undermined the nation

In a sense its what Trump says in "America First" .....its the Nation First (economically), and in its laws, preserving the ethics and morals and traditions of the people

@Mercury you can read 'Those Damned Nazis' of Goebbels to get a better understanding, It is kind of a manifesto, it has not more than three pages.

Not allowing leftist progressivism

Capital can’t move outside the nation if you just conquer the world and removed the undesirables
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It was a reaction to the same shit we see now with the Trannies teaching kindergarten

that kind of thing was happening in Germany

Wiemar republic

@Deleted User Ah! I see where the miscommunication is. To me 'capitalism' means the ability to freely trade and do business, keep your property, let the market decide, etc. To you it seems 'capitalism' means the financial industry.

you have to see that fascism was a reaction to modernity, not a reaction to oppressive monarchs

Berlin was progressive in the beginning of 20 century.

and to protect it from communism

Every ideology ever is a reaction to modernity.

Berlin had a popular radio station with an openly lesbian radio host.

Every single one.

Oh and now the other fuckboi is awake

well fuck

Ideologies weren't a thing prior to modernity.

No, capitalism puts capital first....GDP above all else

soon the conversation will be about the jews

Prior to the industrial revolution there were no ideologies.

and general will go to shit

Fascists say GDP is VERY IMPORTANT, but not as important as the Nation and People which have to be preserved

eg

thus thats why people say both Communist and Capitalist see the world as economic units (communists as economic classes, capitalists as economic units) -whereas Fascist see a nation and people as a sum of their traditions, heritage history etc

and economics comes second....

As a fan of economics, I've always hated when people fetishize GDP.

What if people don't want to be preserved?

It says nothing about the well being of citizens.