@RMS_Gigantic the problem is the politicians, that don't serve the people and we are a small number that support others.

politicians who don't swear allegiance to their citizens or British law

but instead personally swear allegiance to the British monarch

That isn't the problem. That is naive

You just said that the politicians don't serve the people

That's because they're not supposed to

They don't serve the monarch either

Yes, they do

no

```I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Victoria, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.```

Do you think they honour that ?

They don't

The PM certainly does when meeting with the monarch personally every week

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@RMS_Gigantic do they meet every week, because I don't think it is that often

they meet when they get sworn in

```The British Prime Minister has a weekly audience with Elizabeth II, usually every Wednesday, during parliamentary time at Buckingham Palace.```

Weekly

Hmmmm

I wonder how much it is observed

because I know Theresa May and David Cameron were slamming corbyn on a wednesday

Looks like they make time after the meeting, because here's David Cameron confirming their weekly nature: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2710855/My-weekly-chats-Queen-help-clear-head-says-Cameron-s-not-sure-gets-it.html

Umm surprising

still doesn't mean anything

The Queen, in turn, only swore an oath to defend the Church of England, if I recall correctly

Do you honestly think any sort of Real Politik works this way?

Thoughts on Anthony Bourdain?

@M4Gunner RIP, God will be getting some tasty steak.

I honestly think the British government works this way, because it does. This is what happens when your nation has no written constitution and a Bill of Rights that can easily be contradicted like any other law.

@RMS_Gigantic You are a fucking idiot then. Each politician has their own ideals, they don't suddenly meet the queen and after 40 odd years of being in politics think "the Crown and the realm"

The UK is not a republic

For all intents and purposes, it is. The monarchy has no _de facto_ power.

She has shitloads of de jure power, however.

@RMS_Gigantic if she did there would be a big fucking problem. That is only supposed to be used in times of war

She also has massive amounts of "soft power" in the form of subtle gestures of approval or disapproval

Nah, she's literally above UK law

UK law comes from her

@RMS_Gigantic Magna Carta dickhead

She is the source of legitimacy under the UK system

hence the difference between subjects and citizens