Message from @Fulcrum010

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2018-06-11 10:05:16 UTC  

Ah well, they were jews same as me, so we just lie and aint trustworthy, carry on.

2018-06-11 10:07:07 UTC  

@Rickety Cricket most of the evidence came from USSR liberating camps and TBH they had no reason at all to lie about it

2018-06-11 10:07:32 UTC  

Stalin purged most jews from soviet leadership and the citizenry esp. in Ukraine was vaguely antisemitic. He would have gained nothing by faking it

2018-06-11 10:08:12 UTC  

so yeah, I'm pretty sure it happened mostly as described - as in, as sure as I'm of anything else in history books

2018-06-11 10:11:03 UTC  

Yeah

2018-06-11 10:11:18 UTC  

Dude got here to drop some truth bombs

2018-06-11 10:11:21 UTC  

Oh well

2018-06-11 10:11:35 UTC  

im convinced

2018-06-11 10:12:04 UTC  

My relatives didnt get executed, they probably hid in bunkers

2018-06-11 10:12:12 UTC  

its just one big conspiracy

2018-06-11 10:12:20 UTC  

the soviets did lie though, they exaggerated many things that were soon redacted when they were way too implausible for example mass electrocutons and Jews being turned into soap. not to mention they lied about this: In 1989 in the former concentration camp of Auschwitz, a plaque claiming that four million people had been murdered there, mainly Jews, is replaced with a plaque stating that one and a half million had died there. Strangely, the figure of six million Jews dying in the holocaust is not reduced accordingly to reflect this two and a half million reduction of the stated death toll at Auschwitz. Furthermore, no reasons for this reduction in the death toll at Auschwitz, nor the fact the six million figure has not been reduced to reflect this reduction are ever given.

2018-06-11 10:13:00 UTC  

@EmEm
It's all a lie.

Those mass graves? Probably just mannequins

2018-06-11 10:13:04 UTC  

@EmEm your personal experience and the witness testimony of your relatives means nothing to me in this context

2018-06-11 10:13:06 UTC  

Yes

2018-06-11 10:13:10 UTC  

a) I wouldn't ascribe intent to this

2018-06-11 10:13:16 UTC  

Mass graves doesn't prove the 6 million nor does it prove mass gassings

2018-06-11 10:13:25 UTC  

@Rickety Cricket and your walls of text doesent mean shit to me

2018-06-11 10:13:27 UTC  

I mean it's hard to tell how many people were killed at a facility like this

2018-06-11 10:13:44 UTC  

and honestly, I don't think there's a dispute about the exact numbers of jews killed

2018-06-11 10:13:47 UTC  

@EmEm
It's toi early in the morning for me to deal with this tbh

2018-06-11 10:13:58 UTC  

if you insist it's been 4 rather than 6 million.. I won't argue

2018-06-11 10:14:09 UTC  

I think it was considerably lower tbh

2018-06-11 10:14:18 UTC  

however the methods are well demonstrated and documented

2018-06-11 10:14:23 UTC  

i just wanted to prove that the soviets did in fact lie and lied a a lot

2018-06-11 10:14:27 UTC  

no they're really not

2018-06-11 10:14:27 UTC  

we even know WHY they experimented with zyklon B

2018-06-11 10:14:59 UTC  

specifically since shooting en masse resulted in morale problems for the guards

2018-06-11 10:15:04 UTC  

care to post a primary source? some holocaust revisionists argue chambers were used sparingly and not massive industrial executions

2018-06-11 10:15:32 UTC  

Why should we bother posting a source when you havent?

2018-06-11 10:15:56 UTC  

Elder Scrolls 6 niggas be like

2018-06-11 10:16:02 UTC  

@EmEm
Fuck you for starting this

2018-06-11 10:16:09 UTC  
2018-06-11 10:16:18 UTC  

@Fulcrum010 i didnt start this

2018-06-11 10:16:37 UTC  

he started it himself.

2018-06-11 10:16:44 UTC  

you didn't ask but the world alamac stuff, the electrocutions myth, the soap myth, and the plaques are all very verifiable and if you do a search you could find it but i guess i should've just tried to find the primary source myself

2018-06-11 10:16:47 UTC  

@EmEm
You did, now he will post his "sources" and that's on you

2018-06-11 10:16:55 UTC  

and again

2018-06-11 10:17:30 UTC  

I don't think the first stuff was so much deliberate lying as much as it was misunderstandings and exaggerations. I mean, assessing what and how much of has gone on in such a facility isn't an easy thing

2018-06-11 10:17:40 UTC  

and I doubt even the rescued prisoners had complete and accruate info

2018-06-11 10:17:41 UTC  

plus