Message from @Fulcrum010
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Ah well, they were jews same as me, so we just lie and aint trustworthy, carry on.
@Rickety Cricket most of the evidence came from USSR liberating camps and TBH they had no reason at all to lie about it
Stalin purged most jews from soviet leadership and the citizenry esp. in Ukraine was vaguely antisemitic. He would have gained nothing by faking it
so yeah, I'm pretty sure it happened mostly as described - as in, as sure as I'm of anything else in history books
Yeah
Dude got here to drop some truth bombs
Oh well
im convinced
My relatives didnt get executed, they probably hid in bunkers
its just one big conspiracy
the soviets did lie though, they exaggerated many things that were soon redacted when they were way too implausible for example mass electrocutons and Jews being turned into soap. not to mention they lied about this: In 1989 in the former concentration camp of Auschwitz, a plaque claiming that four million people had been murdered there, mainly Jews, is replaced with a plaque stating that one and a half million had died there. Strangely, the figure of six million Jews dying in the holocaust is not reduced accordingly to reflect this two and a half million reduction of the stated death toll at Auschwitz. Furthermore, no reasons for this reduction in the death toll at Auschwitz, nor the fact the six million figure has not been reduced to reflect this reduction are ever given.
@EmEm
It's all a lie.
Those mass graves? Probably just mannequins
@EmEm your personal experience and the witness testimony of your relatives means nothing to me in this context
Yes
a) I wouldn't ascribe intent to this
Mass graves doesn't prove the 6 million nor does it prove mass gassings
@Rickety Cricket and your walls of text doesent mean shit to me
I mean it's hard to tell how many people were killed at a facility like this
and honestly, I don't think there's a dispute about the exact numbers of jews killed
if you insist it's been 4 rather than 6 million.. I won't argue
I think it was considerably lower tbh
however the methods are well demonstrated and documented
i just wanted to prove that the soviets did in fact lie and lied a a lot
no they're really not
we even know WHY they experimented with zyklon B
specifically since shooting en masse resulted in morale problems for the guards
care to post a primary source? some holocaust revisionists argue chambers were used sparingly and not massive industrial executions
Why should we bother posting a source when you havent?
Elder Scrolls 6 niggas be like
@EmEm
Fuck you for starting this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B#Use_in_the_Holocaust this has references
@Fulcrum010 i didnt start this
he started it himself.
you didn't ask but the world alamac stuff, the electrocutions myth, the soap myth, and the plaques are all very verifiable and if you do a search you could find it but i guess i should've just tried to find the primary source myself
@EmEm
You did, now he will post his "sources" and that's on you
and again
I don't think the first stuff was so much deliberate lying as much as it was misunderstandings and exaggerations. I mean, assessing what and how much of has gone on in such a facility isn't an easy thing
and I doubt even the rescued prisoners had complete and accruate info
plus