Message from @franti

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2018-06-27 11:22:27 UTC  

Even Black Science Man didn't know about the practical details of water electrolysis. He thought the Space Shuttle could be fueled by just breaking down water. Somebody corrected him, it's way too inefficient to do it that way, they just collect hydrogen from oil wells, and oxygen from the atmosphere.

2018-06-27 11:22:57 UTC  

Exactly. Splitting up water via electrolysis is not a viable way of producing fuel.

2018-06-27 11:23:22 UTC  

The oxygen in particular, is nasty to whatever conductor you're using.

2018-06-27 11:23:35 UTC  

It's done on nuclear submarines because they have power to spare, but even there, they're changing out electrolysis plants for reverse osmosis plants.

2018-06-27 11:23:39 UTC  

which is why i dont get why these people are trying it now

2018-06-27 11:23:54 UTC  

All science textbooks talk about how you can do it at home, everyone who tries it, finds no oxygen at all, only hydrogen. Because the oxygen corrodes the terminal.

2018-06-27 11:24:12 UTC  

maybe they are just that far behind, and cant use the internet

2018-06-27 11:24:26 UTC  

The oxygen does get produced, it just reacts with whatever metal is being used for the conductor.

2018-06-27 11:24:33 UTC  

Not easy to find metal that won't get corroded.

2018-06-27 11:24:38 UTC  

You'd need a platinum or gold electrode to actually see the bubbles go.

2018-06-27 11:25:51 UTC  

So, to summarize

2018-06-27 11:26:01 UTC  

No, they're not making a water powered car, they're making a hydrogen powered car

2018-06-27 11:26:26 UTC  

Water is a very low energy state molecule, that's why burning hydrogen with oxygen releases energy and creates water.

2018-06-27 11:26:46 UTC  

Yeah, but in marketing language it sounds much better to say water powered, because there's just so much water on the earth! <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-06-27 11:28:48 UTC  

At least we can drink water, much better to use as energy source some dark sludge that's otherwise useless, that's just laying there underground.

2018-06-27 11:29:11 UTC  

>otherwise useless

2018-06-27 11:29:27 UTC  

No, it's kinda really fundamentally needed in the production of this thing called plastics. Without oil, no plastics.

2018-06-27 11:31:08 UTC  

Sustainables with a nuclear baseload is the future.

2018-06-27 11:31:39 UTC  

what is that?

2018-06-27 11:31:49 UTC  

Research is done into creating plastics independent of crude oil

2018-06-27 11:31:54 UTC  

We can make plastic out of corn already.

2018-06-27 11:32:31 UTC  

Wind/water/solar power providing the majority of the energy needs we have, with be-it either fission or fusion nuclear power being available as 'on-demand' in case, say, the sky is overcast, or there's no wind.

2018-06-27 11:32:34 UTC  

such production is not supported by an already established industry, though

2018-06-27 11:34:14 UTC  

we should probably do something though, I don't like plastic just hanging around everywhere

2018-06-27 11:34:25 UTC  

Go tell India and China that.

2018-06-27 11:34:42 UTC  

And just, the overwhelming majority of non-western countries.

2018-06-27 11:34:52 UTC  

did you see that river in Guatemala?

2018-06-27 11:35:04 UTC  

it was just trash

2018-06-27 11:35:15 UTC  

it might have been from a flood though, idk

2018-06-27 11:37:23 UTC  

I think there is some kind of worm that can process plastic

2018-06-27 11:37:54 UTC  

I'm sure there's also research being done into genetically engineering microbes and similar organisms to break down plastic

It get loose and eat your car

2018-06-27 11:38:47 UTC  

but that's going to take a while, even without considering how and where to deploy such organisms, or how they might otherwise impact on the environment

And eat your car

2018-06-27 11:39:27 UTC  

"hey boss, yeah i'm gonna be late for work..., yeah the worms ate my car again"

2018-06-27 11:40:06 UTC  

he knew