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Calling the media "the enemy of the people," aside from being absurd demagoguery, is also way less productive than calling them irresponsible, self-interested, unprofessional, and adversarial - all of which are far more accurate descriptors of the problems in media culture.

#realsocialismhasneverbeentried

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@franti he never said it was "the media" #notall

@franti you make too much sense, that is a form of harrassment!

He's looking good

@Hazzardous OK saying "he said fake news, not the media" - you gotta stop. Trump calls CNN and the Washington Post "Fake News." Yes he is talking about the media.

no, if trump says cnn and washpo are fake news, he's talking about cnn and washpo... don't put words in his mouth, you sound like jim acosta

and if they stopped putting out fake news, he'd probably stop calling them fake news... they've nobody to blame but themselves

This entire conversation is based on the assumption that Trump's audience is not able to understand the nuance of calling the media "the enemy of the people", and interpret that as the large media conglomerates.

trumps audience don't have a problem understanding his nuance... it's trumps adversaries that refuse to understand his nuance so they can clutch their pearls and fake moral outrage, hence the constant fake news.

The media is the enemy

Duh

Show me a mainstream news organization that reports news and does not spin narratives, and i will eat my fucking shoe.

the knife... you want sauce with that shoe?

Well paul

here's the issue

the news has always done that to some degree, it's part of gaining an audience.

Im not saying they have not

And for the most part it hasn't done much harm to the country.

But with the advent of internet news, cable is hemmoraging cash.

So they're having to get more and more extreme

to desperately grasp their audiences

And while I detest what they've become I don't blame them

people gotta eat

and it's easier to do this than reinvent

there is a difference between having some bias but attempting to be objective in reporting, and being an activist who uses the news to create an ends,

^

I'm disgusted at what they've become

outrage media = clicks... clicks = not going bankrupt... so they'll literally lie out their asses for clicks

but I don't blame them beyond it's the easiest thing to do

basically that, hazzard.

Nobody was ahead of this curve.

They thought themselves immortal.

which makes them what?

I just love the apologia on display here

which makes them fake news and the enemy of the people lol

They cannot hide behind "OBJECTIVE REPORTING"

Fake news is the enemy of the people