!agree

I'm late to the internet, how exactly did laci green get popular? what exactly is her appeal to her audience, compared to all the other bloggers spouting identical ideals?

is that seriously it? there are better tiddies on youtube

this is a genuine question, im trying to understand what sets her apart from all the other generic vloggers

i'm late to the internet, context?

I'm new to this corner of youtube, who are some established vloggers who actively oppose sargons views? I'd be interested to hear how his opposition refute his points with any sense of legitimacy.

My point is, they obviously believe they are in the right, so how do they react when their obvious hypocrisy is highlighted? They can't just ignore it, these people always need the last word surely?

Are there any members of the opposition who make direct video responses?

Is this an unreasonable assumption on my part? I legit want to hear both sides of the argument.

I hear what you're saying, but while we agree it's unfair that they just argue that he's a Nazi, isn't it equally unfair that we just dismiss them all as screaming banshees? To tarr such a large movement of people with the same brush of denial feels wrong. There must be at least ONE member of their side capable of putting together what they consider a cohesive counter argument?

We are all individuals, after all

And there's not a single adult among them who's taken the responsibility to try? Amongst the hundreds of thousands of people who subscribe to this movement?

The probability of that is astronomically low

hmm

Maybe it's just because I'm new here, but I find that an awfully convenient justification

I struggle to comprehend the scale of the collective brainwashing you're proposing

I struggle to believe that there is not a single dissident, or at least an attempt to play devils advocate from them

ok

thanks for taking the time guys, i appreciate it

ok lets try a different approach

Out of the various activists we know of that consider Sargon their opposition, who would you be most eager to see confront him in 1v1 live debate?

Not for the lulz, but for the reasons I listed above, who do you think has the best chance?

You think she has the best chance of articulating their arguement?

hah

exactly the type of answer i was looking for!

thank you guys, these are great examples

nah fam

i'm one of those cucks who went and got a useless degree and now i'm back in with the rents

umm

give em the chair?

tag me in bro

bwahah

nah fam, I studied film

yup

currently no, but I hold out hope of being able to use the skills a bit later in life

my eventual goal is to set up a drone photography business

i love building the things, it only makes sense to try and combine the 2 skills

thats why i've become such a self hating cynic

i had to try and put the engineering spin on it otherwise i would have just ended up killing myself in the sea of mediocrity

i didn't have the names, that's what i came here for @AsianMessiah

my original question was to try and seek the SJW equivalent of sargon, someone who offers a counter arguement without screeching about it

when i was told they dont exist, i rephrased the question to the debate issue

i'm on a fact finding mission, so to speak

i was having a hard time understanding that, based on the sheer numbers of people involved

ideally i'd love to see a direct video response to some of sargons work from their side, the way that he picks apart their videos piece by piece

i'm just looking for more insight into their justifications

that's a beautiful way of putting it

thank you so much! i'll be listening to that on my bike ride later :D

part of my motivation for seeking this out is my paranoia of the echochamber

I know i'm not the smartest guy in the world, and when i find myself agreeing with an argument this much I can't help but wonder if i'm being subject to some clever debate tactic that i'm unaware of

forever the cynic

@MountainMan I am currently denied that luxury. I'm stuck in the middle of rural wales. I don't have a car yet and my nearest neighbour is miles away. I don't have much opportunity for discourse, and even if I did, a lot of the locals around here are stuck in the past anyway.

As someone said above, internet debate is hardly a substitute for talking to someone in person

If I were to try and bring up the issue of feminists around here, the response would most likely be: "oooooh? They're still around are they? But they got the vote, didnt they? Ooo arrr"

We're only young and naïve still?

counting stars is at 2.3

legit never heard of despacito until i googled it just now

thats how rural i am

like, the schoolkids around here only just starting to abandon scene

this song isnt even that good

not like, catchy or anything, wont be getting any repeat views from me

(in my humble opinion)

midwales

i've seen the word thrown around, i didnt know it was in relation to a song

not a native

just a prisoner

<3

originally kent

but i've moved around a lot over the years

harr

olawd

hang on lemme check my sundial

i was more making a point about how backwards my location is

but i'm an unfunny tryhard

Why nurses specifically though? Why not cops or rescue workers?

Given the huminatarian nature of nursing and the connotations that go along with that, this feels deliberately provocative

You don't feel that our outrage is in someway manipulated? I mean, the selflessness of nurses is pretty much unquestioned in our society. Such a brazen statement against such guardian angels was obviously going to provoke outrage.

I went to uni with him

He was an insufferable person

yeah

he graduated a couple years before i got there, but he hung around after he'd finished for a long time, so you'd always see him around on campus

had an entourage that followed him everywhere

what pissed me off mainly was because he was one of the few people of note that the school of media had spat out and actually become known, he was held as an example that the rest of us should aspire to be

his success story was constantly being injected into lectures and whatnot

exactly

that's what was so demoralising

the school was trying to take partial credit for his success, and my attitude was: 'is that the best you've got? man i picked the wrong school'

aye, you've got me there man

is school shaming a thing?

maybe we should apologise for our school privilege

shame, i was looking forward to a level headed debate where those views are justified

because it's really rare, and i'd like to know what it looks like

ffs now i want to smoke

he's making it look so tasty

i'm 36 days into quitting

it's ill fitting

maybe its just the weight of his clip mic, but it looks like his neck is massive and can barely squeeze through

hah

i dont like how PJW keeps looking at the camera, it unnerves me