Message from @franti

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2018-08-16 18:12:31 UTC  

showing your palms makes people see you as more trustworthy @Reaps

2018-08-16 18:12:42 UTC  

@Fitzydog danke

2018-08-16 18:13:19 UTC  

Lobster behavior is so simple and easy to study compared to other species, that its a good model to use for understanding more complex systems

2018-08-16 18:13:26 UTC  

ahhhhh

2018-08-16 18:13:28 UTC  

ok

2018-08-16 18:15:41 UTC  

Yes.

2018-08-16 18:16:20 UTC  

The same message, wrapped up in esoteric nonsense about Jesus "being love" or w/e is hella cringe

2018-08-16 18:16:27 UTC  

He's descirbed something similar to that himself; basically you want to convey your message without sounding like a grumpy old fart issuing specious orders like pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps, that sort of shit

2018-08-16 18:17:27 UTC  

tbh jordan is one of few old people I actually listen to without cringing.

2018-08-16 18:17:41 UTC  

(if its life advice n shit will say)

2018-08-16 18:17:49 UTC  

Trying to offer good guidance without being some eyerolling spiritualist hippie type, nor the authoritarian type - both of which most younger people will roll their eyes at and not take serious

2018-08-16 18:19:44 UTC  

Besides marine biology his message isn’t bad

2018-08-16 18:19:51 UTC  

But in some areas flawed

2018-08-16 18:20:55 UTC  

`w o a h`

2018-08-16 18:24:27 UTC  

@MountainMan His use of the lobster is an analogy used to wipe away the postermodernist claim that oppressive hierarchy is the construct of some amalgamation of a capitalist heternormative patriarchal society. He makes the basis on lobsters being attuned by the neurochemical serotonin which affects their place in the dominance hierarchy, and despite our ancestral line diverging from lobsters hundreds of millions of years ago, we're still attuned towards that same neurochemical. So the concept of a dominance hierarchy is not something to be wiped away with a handwave, but something to be contended with.

That's all he's saying about lobsters. It's an illustrative side point to his main argument.

2018-08-16 18:25:18 UTC  

@Legiondude Thanks for the thorough explanation fam.

2018-08-16 18:25:33 UTC  

That's just an appeal to nature fallacy though

2018-08-16 18:26:21 UTC  

Humans possess self-determination we are not animals

2018-08-16 18:26:39 UTC  

He's aware of that

2018-08-16 18:27:52 UTC  

He's saying we can overcome these things as rational people but being aware of these features built into our biology is not something to be trifled with on a whim.

2018-08-16 18:36:52 UTC  

@radeon you free?

2018-08-16 18:39:09 UTC  

yea

2018-08-16 18:43:29 UTC  

nvm

2018-08-16 18:45:22 UTC  

I like Peterson

2018-08-16 18:45:36 UTC  

I wish he was in Trudeau's spot tbh

2018-08-16 18:45:58 UTC  

I'm not Canadian, not my deal to interfere

2018-08-16 18:46:32 UTC  

he'd do a better job, even with his old demons

I have 5 Canadian God kids, I have more skin in the game than you do

2018-08-16 18:46:48 UTC  

for sure you do

2018-08-16 18:47:04 UTC  

not being sarcastic!

2018-08-16 18:47:07 UTC  

why are fortnite skins not called forskins?

cus it's gay

and the internet is homo

2018-08-16 18:47:32 UTC  

fortnite is full of youtubers

2018-08-16 18:47:47 UTC  

fortnite is only fun with friends tbh

2018-08-16 18:47:53 UTC  

it's worse than GTA Online nowadays just after rockstar announce a shitty DLC update on newswire

2018-08-16 18:48:16 UTC  

all the shitbag youtubers get on it

2018-08-16 18:57:48 UTC  

Do people think the lobsters thing is ridiculous? it's a pretty obvious analopgy IMO