@Fitzydog that's a fiercely contested subject actually, even leftcoms are split on that

@Farseer Selna Vesha do you ever talk about things other than Luxury Gay Space Communism?

@Farseer Selna Vesha Just remember: There are a lot of people with guns out there. *And they usually don't like communists.*

I don't actually discuss communism much with non leftists

Or even other leftists

because fulcrum says you're reasonable

Then can you catch me up on Capitalism’s contradictions?

*when you're not talking politics*

@Puma I dunno if I can do those justice for you as they are primarily economic processes , and I'm not the most literate in Marxist theory

i have a lot of guns, and i don't like communists

But stuff like the falling rate of profit, the contradiction between wages and profit, the unsustainable nature of the system requiring potentially infinite growth are a few worth mentioning

Well, I can’t really make an argument either. I am either galaxy brained enough, or naive enough, to think that Capitalism is more of a status quo built on after centuries of human social interaction and trading

@Jek Porkins sup my husky italian bruddah

how's that *f o o d* ?

What I can't understand about commies (Other than the lack of morality in the ideology) is the fixation with Marx, even though most of what he said was completely the opposite of what actually happened with capitalism

That thought mainly is a result of there not being a “The Capitalist Manifesto by Marl Karx”

@Deleted User with my surplus of wealth that i have gathered under wonderful capitalism, i have been eating eggs, spinach, bacon, and cheese for the last two weeks and i've already started losing weight

@Jek Porkins Hell yeah, sticking with that Keto diet

ya ya

@Fitzydog we aren't really fixated on him, we are as "fixated" on him as are Austrians on Hayek , admittedly Marxism is badly named because most Marxist theory was produced long after marx died

Capitalism is an emergent phenomenon from natural human interactions

Capitalism just sorta exists

Hell Marxism as a field was co founded with Engels , who almost no one outside of communists knows about

Nobody *really* knows why

Engels is a reason why you should never trust germany

@Jek Porkins you get a trucker discount or anything?

I think Ayn Rand had her finger on the pulse there.

selfish altruism or whatever

Capitalism is the result historical processes and material dialectics , correlating with class struggle

it isn't though

if you leave a closed system alone, it eventually defaults to capitalism

@franti mein memerreich idol is the best

Its a result of scarcity *existing*

everything always goes back to capitalism in the end

"Capitalism" is literally as old as human trade

by just existing people innovate and do things

Capitalism, in its current form, is very recent

Well, that's a poor explanation for capitalism because feudalism is also predicated on scarcity , as was previous economic systems,

and those were enforced by ruling classes

"scarcity" is also kind of a weird thing, that doesn't even exist (yet)

a peasant was ALWAYS a peasant