Message from @Farseer Selna Vesha

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2018-08-27 05:12:39 UTC  

Basically, if UBI happens we could end up with Luxury Gay Space Capitalism

2018-08-27 05:12:40 UTC  

gay luxury space communism

2018-08-27 05:12:44 UTC  

is the future

2018-08-27 05:12:45 UTC  

Leftcoms are very orthodox Marxists

2018-08-27 05:13:02 UTC  

We believe revolution will happen when it happens

2018-08-27 05:13:30 UTC  

I.e when capitalism literally falls under its own weight and contradictions

2018-08-27 05:13:35 UTC  

I’d imagine things would have to be a lot worse than they are now

2018-08-27 05:13:35 UTC  

Like the christians who believe the end times will happen when it happens

2018-08-27 05:13:54 UTC  

wow just like rapturefag christians

2018-08-27 05:14:00 UTC  

@Farseer Selna Vesha And who's going to enforce your vision on the others when that collapse does happen?

2018-08-27 05:14:00 UTC  

@franti “we’ll get to heat death eventually, and it will be god’s work”

2018-08-27 05:14:30 UTC  

And what contradictions are those? @Farseer Selna Vesha

2018-08-27 05:14:50 UTC  

@Fitzydog that's a fiercely contested subject actually, even leftcoms are split on that

2018-08-27 05:15:23 UTC  

@Farseer Selna Vesha do you ever talk about things other than Luxury Gay Space Communism?

2018-08-27 05:15:29 UTC  

@Farseer Selna Vesha Just remember: There are a lot of people with guns out there. *And they usually don't like communists.*

2018-08-27 05:15:41 UTC  

I don't actually discuss communism much with non leftists

2018-08-27 05:15:49 UTC  

Or even other leftists

2018-08-27 05:15:58 UTC  

because fulcrum says you're reasonable

2018-08-27 05:16:02 UTC  

Then can you catch me up on Capitalism’s contradictions?

2018-08-27 05:16:07 UTC  

*when you're not talking politics*

2018-08-27 05:16:47 UTC  

@Puma I dunno if I can do those justice for you as they are primarily economic processes , and I'm not the most literate in Marxist theory

2018-08-27 05:17:53 UTC  

i have a lot of guns, and i don't like communists

2018-08-27 05:18:07 UTC  

But stuff like the falling rate of profit, the contradiction between wages and profit, the unsustainable nature of the system requiring potentially infinite growth are a few worth mentioning

2018-08-27 05:18:11 UTC  

Well, I can’t really make an argument either. I am either galaxy brained enough, or naive enough, to think that Capitalism is more of a status quo built on after centuries of human social interaction and trading

2018-08-27 05:18:13 UTC  

@Jek Porkins sup my husky italian bruddah

2018-08-27 05:18:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/483505517839515658/20180824_211020.jpg

2018-08-27 05:18:23 UTC  

how's that *f o o d* ?

2018-08-27 05:18:35 UTC  

What I can't understand about commies (Other than the lack of morality in the ideology) is the fixation with Marx, even though most of what he said was completely the opposite of what actually happened with capitalism

2018-08-27 05:18:56 UTC  

That thought mainly is a result of there not being a “The Capitalist Manifesto by Marl Karx”

2018-08-27 05:19:31 UTC  

@Deleted User with my surplus of wealth that i have gathered under wonderful capitalism, i have been eating eggs, spinach, bacon, and cheese for the last two weeks and i've already started losing weight

2018-08-27 05:20:02 UTC  

@Jek Porkins Hell yeah, sticking with that Keto diet

2018-08-27 05:20:09 UTC  

ya ya

2018-08-27 05:20:13 UTC  

@Fitzydog we aren't really fixated on him, we are as "fixated" on him as are Austrians on Hayek , admittedly Marxism is badly named because most Marxist theory was produced long after marx died

2018-08-27 05:20:47 UTC  

Capitalism is an emergent phenomenon from natural human interactions

2018-08-27 05:20:52 UTC  

Capitalism just sorta exists

2018-08-27 05:21:01 UTC  

Hell Marxism as a field was co founded with Engels , who almost no one outside of communists knows about

2018-08-27 05:21:05 UTC  

Nobody *really* knows why

2018-08-27 05:21:24 UTC  

Engels is a reason why you should never trust germany

2018-08-27 05:21:28 UTC  

@Jek Porkins you get a trucker discount or anything?

2018-08-27 05:21:58 UTC  

I think Ayn Rand had her finger on the pulse there.

selfish altruism or whatever

2018-08-27 05:22:00 UTC  

Capitalism is the result historical processes and material dialectics , correlating with class struggle