Message from @Farseer Selna Vesha

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2018-08-27 05:24:39 UTC  

Perhaps... Mercantlism?

2018-08-27 05:25:01 UTC  

Mercantilism is referred to as early capitalism in Marxism

2018-08-27 05:25:13 UTC  

Eh

2018-08-27 05:25:28 UTC  

I.e when capitalism was still bound to states

2018-08-27 05:25:39 UTC  

And state interest

2018-08-27 05:25:44 UTC  

And before mass industry

2018-08-27 05:25:52 UTC  

You mean.... state capitalism?

2018-08-27 05:26:09 UTC  

Yes and no,

2018-08-27 05:26:27 UTC  

Schrodinger’s State Capitalism

2018-08-27 05:26:30 UTC  

Lol

2018-08-27 05:26:58 UTC  

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-08-27 05:27:06 UTC  

Anyway, I have to sleep, and wait silently for a certain german’s autism to act up

2018-08-27 05:27:43 UTC  

The main distinction was divorcing capitalism from nation state policy , i.e the actions of capital were no longer subservient to national or imperial interests

2018-08-27 05:27:47 UTC  

@Puma who's?

2018-08-27 05:28:14 UTC  

@Farseer Selna Vesha lol when did that ever happen?

2018-08-27 05:28:32 UTC  

And the capitalism had become a truely global phenomenon , globalism started in the 19th century truely,

2018-08-27 05:29:34 UTC  

@Fitzydog roughly around the 19th century, though one can argue mercantilism didn't completely end until the 70s when the USA ended the last gold backed currency

2018-08-27 05:29:45 UTC  

It's own

2018-08-27 05:30:21 UTC  

I'd argue the opposite

2018-08-27 05:31:10 UTC  

The market was largely unimpeded until the state took a controlling interest in it by monopolizing the control of the currency and regulating the market

2018-08-27 05:31:20 UTC  

I'm also gonna go to bed, it's late here and I shouldn't be up late arguing with random liberals on the internet

2018-08-27 05:31:54 UTC  

>when you think everyone else is a liberal

2018-08-27 05:32:02 UTC  

good shit m8

2018-08-27 05:32:19 UTC  

@Deleted User I mean, we are aren't we?

2018-08-27 05:32:20 UTC  

dab on them libs epic style

2018-08-27 05:32:33 UTC  

@Fitzydog post 8val

2018-08-27 05:32:57 UTC  

When i say liberal I use it in its true meaning, not the corrupted meaning the USA turned it into, for example being anti gun is pretty anti liberal

2018-08-27 05:33:06 UTC  

^

2018-08-27 05:34:31 UTC  

Us "liberals" on the other hand get rock hard over security theatre like gun control

2018-08-27 05:35:27 UTC  

there's actual conservatives on this server

2018-08-27 05:35:36 UTC  

Pisses me off though because here in Europe most bought into the anti gun meme

2018-08-27 05:35:42 UTC  

@Deleted User > implying conservatives aren't Liberal

2018-08-27 05:36:14 UTC  

A large portion of American conservatives are comfortable liberals,

2018-08-27 05:36:35 UTC  

Though the evangelicals can be described as theocrats

2018-08-27 05:37:23 UTC  

I dunno why republicans tolerate them despite them literally violating the secularism within the us constitution

2018-08-27 05:37:35 UTC  

And advocating for such

2018-08-27 05:38:16 UTC  

@Farseer Selna Vesha They're pretty much nonexistant these days

2018-08-27 05:38:25 UTC  

because they're a useful base

2018-08-27 05:38:54 UTC  

@Deleted User most conservatives are conserving liberal ideals of older times or just in general, the US left on the other hand is trying to turn the USA into a social democracy

2018-08-27 05:39:20 UTC  

If they want a social democracy, they can move elsewhere

2018-08-27 05:39:35 UTC  

there's plenty of countries in the world that are social democracies