Message from @Farseer Selna Vesha
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Anyway, I have to sleep, and wait silently for a certain german’s autism to act up
The main distinction was divorcing capitalism from nation state policy , i.e the actions of capital were no longer subservient to national or imperial interests
@Puma who's?
@Farseer Selna Vesha lol when did that ever happen?
And the capitalism had become a truely global phenomenon , globalism started in the 19th century truely,
@Fitzydog roughly around the 19th century, though one can argue mercantilism didn't completely end until the 70s when the USA ended the last gold backed currency
It's own
I'd argue the opposite
The market was largely unimpeded until the state took a controlling interest in it by monopolizing the control of the currency and regulating the market
I'm also gonna go to bed, it's late here and I shouldn't be up late arguing with random liberals on the internet
>when you think everyone else is a liberal
good shit m8
@Deleted User I mean, we are aren't we?
dab on them libs epic style
@Fitzydog post 8val
When i say liberal I use it in its true meaning, not the corrupted meaning the USA turned it into, for example being anti gun is pretty anti liberal
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Us "liberals" on the other hand get rock hard over security theatre like gun control
there's actual conservatives on this server
@Deleted User > implying conservatives aren't Liberal
A large portion of American conservatives are comfortable liberals,
Though the evangelicals can be described as theocrats
I dunno why republicans tolerate them despite them literally violating the secularism within the us constitution
And advocating for such
@Farseer Selna Vesha They're pretty much nonexistant these days
because they're a useful base
@Deleted User most conservatives are conserving liberal ideals of older times or just in general, the US left on the other hand is trying to turn the USA into a social democracy
If they want a social democracy, they can move elsewhere
there's plenty of countries in the world that are social democracies
Europe actually has fairly strong borders, despite it being tolerant of refugees, if you aren't skilled your stuck in America
Of course, because you SHOULD be skilled
So that's not exactly a good argument against them
That's also tens of millions your telling to migrate out, there's few places able to take them let alone willing
Even if they are social democracies
It's a powderkeg, for sure
I think they will win out in the end, social democratic policies tend to become very popular as populations become more urbanised and the USA is urbanising quite quickly
If it does, the US will balkanize *very* quickly
In fact you can almost predict much of someone politics based on whether or not they live in a city
In the USA