Message from @Farseer Selna Vesha

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2018-08-27 05:22:09 UTC  

it isn't though

2018-08-27 05:22:29 UTC  

if you leave a closed system alone, it eventually defaults to capitalism

2018-08-27 05:22:30 UTC  

@franti mein memerreich idol is the best

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2018-08-27 05:22:31 UTC  

Its a result of scarcity *existing*

2018-08-27 05:22:52 UTC  

everything always goes back to capitalism in the end

2018-08-27 05:22:55 UTC  

"Capitalism" is literally as old as human trade

2018-08-27 05:23:21 UTC  

by just existing people innovate and do things

2018-08-27 05:23:23 UTC  

Capitalism, in its current form, is very recent

2018-08-27 05:23:28 UTC  

Well, that's a poor explanation for capitalism because feudalism is also predicated on scarcity , as was previous economic systems,

2018-08-27 05:23:42 UTC  

and those were enforced by ruling classes

2018-08-27 05:24:01 UTC  

"scarcity" is also kind of a weird thing, that doesn't even exist (yet)

2018-08-27 05:24:05 UTC  

a peasant was ALWAYS a peasant

2018-08-27 05:24:09 UTC  

and so on

2018-08-27 05:24:15 UTC  

there was no vertical movement

2018-08-27 05:24:30 UTC  

Fuedalism is moreso power than anything else

2018-08-27 05:24:39 UTC  

Perhaps... Mercantlism?

2018-08-27 05:25:01 UTC  

Mercantilism is referred to as early capitalism in Marxism

2018-08-27 05:25:13 UTC  

Eh

2018-08-27 05:25:28 UTC  

I.e when capitalism was still bound to states

2018-08-27 05:25:39 UTC  

And state interest

2018-08-27 05:25:44 UTC  

And before mass industry

2018-08-27 05:25:52 UTC  

You mean.... state capitalism?

2018-08-27 05:26:09 UTC  

Yes and no,

2018-08-27 05:26:27 UTC  

Schrodinger’s State Capitalism

2018-08-27 05:26:30 UTC  

Lol

2018-08-27 05:26:58 UTC  

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-08-27 05:27:06 UTC  

Anyway, I have to sleep, and wait silently for a certain german’s autism to act up

2018-08-27 05:27:43 UTC  

The main distinction was divorcing capitalism from nation state policy , i.e the actions of capital were no longer subservient to national or imperial interests

2018-08-27 05:27:47 UTC  

@Puma who's?

2018-08-27 05:28:14 UTC  

@Farseer Selna Vesha lol when did that ever happen?

2018-08-27 05:28:32 UTC  

And the capitalism had become a truely global phenomenon , globalism started in the 19th century truely,

2018-08-27 05:29:34 UTC  

@Fitzydog roughly around the 19th century, though one can argue mercantilism didn't completely end until the 70s when the USA ended the last gold backed currency

2018-08-27 05:29:45 UTC  

It's own

2018-08-27 05:30:21 UTC  

I'd argue the opposite

2018-08-27 05:31:10 UTC  

The market was largely unimpeded until the state took a controlling interest in it by monopolizing the control of the currency and regulating the market

2018-08-27 05:31:20 UTC  

I'm also gonna go to bed, it's late here and I shouldn't be up late arguing with random liberals on the internet

2018-08-27 05:31:54 UTC  

>when you think everyone else is a liberal

2018-08-27 05:32:02 UTC  

good shit m8

2018-08-27 05:32:19 UTC  

@Deleted User I mean, we are aren't we?

2018-08-27 05:32:20 UTC  

dab on them libs epic style

2018-08-27 05:32:33 UTC  

@Fitzydog post 8val